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To: 2banana
I talked to a Russian coworker about Zhukov once: many Russians view Zhukov as a butcher who sought to please Stalin by sacrificing tens of thousands simply to meet political deadlines for offensives, such as retaking a city by May Day or some such.

Look at his performance at the Seelow Heights, where the preparatory bombardment turner the Oder river bank into a sea of mud almost impassable to Soviet tanks and he ordered desperate frontal assaults simply to keep up with the Ukrainian Front commander's assault from the south.

30 posted on 06/09/2019 9:49:05 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: pierrem15

You’d think they would have learned from Stalingrad that bombing cities to rubble actually makes it more difficult to take the city, it becomes a fortress, and difficult for tanks to maneuver in.


31 posted on 06/09/2019 9:51:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: pierrem15

In no way Zhukov was a Western-style military leader but situations you have described weren’t so common.
Also Zhukov was a subject of both Stalinist and Khruschev’s propaganda aimed to taint his popularity. He was generally portrayed as a sort of Napoleon and un-Soviet. The media once in a while relayed witness on him abusing troops or stealing war loot in Germany but it never progressed into something serious.


33 posted on 06/09/2019 10:01:16 AM PDT by NorseViking
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