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What Civic Naionalisk Hath Wrought
Vox Populi ^ | Dec 4, 2018 | VoX Day

Posted on 12/04/2018 10:47:01 AM PST by Jack Black

Sarah Hoyt has yet to come to terms with the fact that it is her "born American in Portugal" civic nationalism that has led the United States to the brink of civil war:

But is it better if the rough music plays and civil war breaks out?

Civil war is not impossible. Despite the fact that we’re emulsified, red and blue living side by side (but not in harmony), civil war is not impossible. It’s just not the civil war we’ve read about in history books, the stories of the grey and the blue and neat armies on the field.

Sure, sure, brothers fought on opposing sides and son against father. But it was still largely territorial. Terrain gained and lost.

If civil war comes, it will be a war of insurrection. Of many groups against many. Of balkanization. Of neighbor turning on neighbor. Of houses burning and corpses hanging from neighborhood trees. Over and over and over again, and vendettas tossed in.


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1 posted on 12/04/2018 10:47:01 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...
CWII Ping.

Note, if you have mailed me asking to join the ping list recently, I am a little behind. I will get caught up soon.


2 posted on 12/04/2018 10:49:29 AM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: Jack Black
If civil war comes, it will be a war of insurrection. Of many groups against many. Of balkanization. Of neighbor turning on neighbor. Of houses burning and corpses hanging from neighborhood trees. Over and over and over again, and vendettas tossed in.

More than a bit of truth here, thinking of Revolutionary War and Loyalists vs Revolutionaries, especially in the western Carolinas. Also Bloody Kansas in the lead-up to the US Civil War.

3 posted on 12/04/2018 10:59:09 AM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Jack Black

Bttt.

5.56mm


4 posted on 12/04/2018 11:02:31 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: M Kehoe

It is not nationalism that is leading to war. It is globalism that is leading to war against those who would destroy this nation.


5 posted on 12/04/2018 11:15:44 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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To: Jack Black

I know Sarah Hoyt. She is a good American and great example of the bright side of immigration and, as I have posted elsewhere, I am not a big fan of immigration, legal or otherwise.
Vox is entertaining but bit of a nutball. He has written that the only real citizens are descendants of the ‘original’ founding generation of this country.
Civic nationalism works when there is an emphasis on making new Americans conform to an American culture and nationalism. But “Diversity” has poisoned this process.


6 posted on 12/04/2018 11:17:31 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Hi.

Between you and me. I hope to get off this planet without having to fill bodybags.

But, oaths are forever.

5.56mm


7 posted on 12/04/2018 11:27:35 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: M Kehoe

Will our posterity regret our restraint?


8 posted on 12/04/2018 11:36:59 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

Our posterity is in the process of being indoctrinated into desiring enslavement.


9 posted on 12/04/2018 11:38:50 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Jack Black


Of course the United States "will become like the other countries of the world." How could it possibly fail to do so, now that it is mostly inhabited by people from those other countries?

Yep
10 posted on 12/04/2018 11:41:17 AM PST by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: Jack Black
If civil war comes, it will be a war of insurrection. Of many groups against many. Of balkanization. Of neighbor turning on neighbor. Of houses burning and corpses hanging from neighborhood trees. Over and over and over again, and vendettas tossed in.

I don't agree. There will be some of this nasty tribal warfare but entire states will also secede. There will be regions that claim sovereignty.

11 posted on 12/04/2018 11:46:47 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: wastoute

Hi.

“Will our posterity regret our restraint?”

Difficult question, for I am not a prophet.

Imho, if it all goes south they will regret living in caves.

5.56mm


12 posted on 12/04/2018 12:03:59 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Jack Black

I like a lot of the writers of Castalia House, John C. Wright especially.

I’m not sure any sort of widespread civil unrest is possible while the poorest people are the most likely to be obese and are the most entertained poor people ever. Also, our poor people are generally unused to hard physical activity outdoors and in all weather. Hard to imagine it happening while these conditions persist.

Freegards


13 posted on 12/04/2018 12:18:11 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Little Ray
Yeah, I agree VD has some strange ideas, including his "America is for the direct descendants of those who were here at the founding" idea.

He lives in Italy, but writes a lot about American politics.

I enjoy some of his comic books, though. And I haven't read comics for years, but the idea of conservative themed comics seemed amusing, so I bought some, and they were pretty good.

His blog is interesting, he writes a lot. Even if only 1/4 of the pieces are on topics I care about that's usually ends up being 2 or 3 a week.

14 posted on 12/04/2018 1:51:49 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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Vox Day's recent line of patriot comics include this heroine, Rebel:


15 posted on 12/04/2018 2:00:22 PM PST by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: M Kehoe

I have the same hope.

But I’m not counting on it happening.


16 posted on 12/04/2018 2:33:49 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wastoute

“Will our posterity regret our restraint?”

A most significant question. Sadly, I think that yes, they will.

I regret our “Greatest Generation”’s restraint in the 60’s and 70’s.


17 posted on 12/04/2018 4:45:13 PM PST by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Little Ray
Vox is entertaining but bit of a nutball. He has written that the only real citizens are descendants of the ‘original’ founding generation of this country.

Hey, there, nice cucking on Vox Day.

He's the one who wrote SJWs Always Lie.

Oh, btw, he's Native American by descent and lives in Europe.

So much for the "White Nationalist" smear.

Civic nationalism works when there is an emphasis on making new Americans conform to an American culture and nationalism. But “Diversity” has poisoned this process.

Vox Day also pointed out that "Civic Nationalism" fails because magic dirt is a myth.

18 posted on 12/04/2018 4:45:19 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jack Black
Do our heroines come from these?


19 posted on 12/04/2018 4:48:56 PM PST by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Louis Foxwell

It is globalism that is leading to war against those who would destroy this nation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sanctuary States vs. Federalists CWII ?


20 posted on 12/04/2018 8:48:25 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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