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In the Army, the Delusion Keeps Rolling Along…
US Defense Watch ^ | July 28, 2018 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 07/28/2018 4:18:24 PM PDT by pboyington

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1 posted on 07/28/2018 4:18:24 PM PDT by pboyington
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First Sergeants have a lactation station now? I should have stayed in...


2 posted on 07/28/2018 4:20:29 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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What happened to killing people and breaking things?

5.56mm


3 posted on 07/28/2018 4:24:23 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Dogbert41

I sure there are some biggums there!


4 posted on 07/28/2018 4:27:08 PM PDT by BBell (shoot shot shoot shot shoot shot gimme a tissue!!!)
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To: pboyington

I never thought about it but I guess you could say I was pre-Power Point. I was old school, part of a long line of “overhead projector” warriors that had been fighting on every sea and continent since WWII.


5 posted on 07/28/2018 4:31:18 PM PDT by BBell (shoot shot shoot shot shoot shot gimme a tissue!!!)
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For all of the post-overhead projector crowd some history.

Overhead projectors were introduced into U.S. military training during World War II. After the war they were used at schools like the U.S. Military Academy.[9] Overhead projectors were used early on for police work with a cellophane roll over a 9-inch stage, allowing facial characteristics to be rolled across the stage.[citation needed] As the demand for projectors grew, Buhl Industries was founded in 1953, and became the leading US contributor for several optical refinements for the overhead projector and its projection lens

Oorah!!! Get Some!!!

6 posted on 07/28/2018 4:35:37 PM PDT by BBell (shoot shot shoot shot shoot shot gimme a tissue!!!)
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We are going to have to survive a (nother) war to end all wars, with the same good men and their families somehow managing to pull the survivors through it.

And all this breast and poozie business and the equality of all is going to be thrown into the mass graveyards along with most of all the wretchedness of culture we have seen take root in the past several years.

We are now the self-neutered and -blinded great nation of the world and we are heading for a mortal surprise.


7 posted on 07/28/2018 4:41:41 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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Looks to me as if this new test is harder than the current one. By definition, a gender neutral test means that men and women have to meet the same standard to pass, no matter their age. Until we know the time and repetition standards, it might keep weaker people out.


8 posted on 07/28/2018 4:44:15 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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This social engineering, politically correct bull crap is another example of Obama’s bleeding America to death with a thousand cuts.


9 posted on 07/28/2018 5:01:42 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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“Looks to me as if this new test is harder than the current one. “

Correct.

However, the authors characterizations stirred emotion in the posters and it causes them to look stupid to any outside observer.


10 posted on 07/28/2018 5:12:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Mad Dog Mattis was going to be the savior of the military. In fact he is the worst Sec Def since Macnamara maybe even worse since Mac did not change the core of the military. Mad Dog is a running bad, very bad joke to those of us who have retired and are watching on the sidelines. This military is full still of Obama Generals and Admirals who couldnt care less about country or fighting ability, only their own sorry butts and their own sorry careers. And still Trump thinks throwing money at the military will fix it.


11 posted on 07/28/2018 5:13:36 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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The new test is a lot more equipment intensive. Each company is going to have to have deadweight, medicine balls, chin up bars 90 lb. Sleds and kettleballs. The current pt test is limited only by the number of available graders. The new test will be limited by the number of sets of equipment, which will of course, have to be stored and accounted for, and packed up if the unit is deploying for any length of time. Without a ridiculous amount of equipment meant to be used twice a year, it’s going to take two days to administer a PT test to a company sized unit.


12 posted on 07/28/2018 5:13:52 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Plus this is the same Army that was virtually forced to remove Communist Lieutenant who they let graduate from West Point and lead soldiers even though he was widely known as a communist in both places. Had he been a Muslim communist, he would still be on active duty.


13 posted on 07/28/2018 5:15:12 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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I came in when there were still manual stenciling machines to produce training schedules.

The first copier I ever used was at a Brigade HQS. It was the size of a small house.

I remember our first IBM selectric typewriter arriving in the orderly room. Disposition Forms were the standard for correspondence, using carbon paper for copies.

Back when 1SGs still had to produce daily Company Morning Reports before the PACs were formed at Bn Level and SIDPERs was still a concept.

Back when pulling Company Pay Officer on pay day complete with loaded .45 was still a thing.

Finally had rudimentary word processors (Wangs) and databases for personnel records in the late eighties.

Started using military e-mail and PowerPoint in the mid nineties.

Saw a lot of technology change in 25 years.


14 posted on 07/28/2018 5:17:56 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Whose Gonna Fill Their Shoes...?)
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Oh yeah, and I became a master at making overhead slides for training classes. Trainers at Ft Benning actually went to school to become platform instructors and overhead slide gurus.


15 posted on 07/28/2018 5:20:35 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Whose Gonna Fill Their Shoes...?)
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Really? I just left the Pentagon and folks who are not on the sidelines think much differently. But like many enterprises as big as DoD is, is takes everyone (including Congress) to right the ship.

As far as gender issues, that is not a SECDEF issue. He can make recommendations, but it is Congress who needs to act, and that isn't going to happen when a sick, biblically illiterate citizenry keep voting idiots into office. So it is the whole nation's fault. Not one man.

16 posted on 07/28/2018 5:27:46 PM PDT by Salvavida
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When I was an ROTC cadet in the late 80s, our cadre told us as new platoon leaders our most important administrative tool would be our skilcraft pens. I remember the day as platoon leader and company training officer, that our first PC showed up in the company orderly room, a 286 or 386 IIRC. It was at that time I noted a fundamental change in the officer corps. Up until that point, there was an over-arching concept called, “leadership,” and one skill under that umbrella was management. With widespread automated data processing, that became inverted and the officer corps appeared to stress management as the overarching umbrella, under which leadership became a subordinate skill. I guess leadership is harder to quantify and evaluate (unless you’re one of the ones being led.)


17 posted on 07/28/2018 5:28:47 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That’s a great observation that I witnessed as well.


18 posted on 07/28/2018 5:31:52 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Whose Gonna Fill Their Shoes...?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

What I notice is that it will be hard to train to. Not many people have access to 90 lb sleds. Not sure how you practice throwing a 10 lb ball behind you other than getting a 10 lb ball and throwing it behind you.

Pull-ups, pushups, sit ups and jogging - that is stuff I can practice and know how I’m progressing.


19 posted on 07/28/2018 5:35:12 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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The current goal is to complete the entire test in 50 minutes, from start to finish. With a range of 3 to 5 minutes rest between events, except the last one, which is I believe 10 minutes before the run.

I am currently in, and I fail to see how this can be logistically executed, at least compared to the current APFT.

This next year is supposed to be where they develop the point scale for units. The idea is that either by MOS or unit type, different scores will be the minimum.

Instead of having two different scales for gender, there is suggested to be one. Speculation is that minimum points by gender MAY be different. But the other theory is how the point scale will pan out, is that females are usually in support units and the such and the minimum standards in those will be more in-line with what is achievable by women, so men may have a much easier time passing in such a unit. Whereas a combat unit, the minimum will be much higher, therefore if a female can score high enough on the same scale, then “Ranger up”.

Not Safe For Work, but always great to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzbr6fPDmkE&index=1&list=PL73E69589A2023DE8


20 posted on 07/28/2018 5:42:07 PM PDT by 007drizzt
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