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Dirty Jobs, Good Pay: Mike Rowe and others seek to revive the American work ethic
City Journal ^ | Spring 2018 Issue | Steven Malanga

Posted on 06/04/2018 12:21:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 06/04/2018 12:21:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mike is right.

In 2008, when the economy took a dump and I got laid off, UC didn't cut the mustard. I found a job. Cleaning toilets. Literally. In a Wally World. The pay sucked, but I had a young son and food, shelter and clothing to provide. I later found a slightly better job, with very few benefits, installing milk tanks and walk-in freezers. Finally, after nearly a year and a half, a job in my own trade.

Busting your rear isn't fashionable, nor is getting sweaty and dirty. It IS self rewarding though.

During the very beginning of my journey through under-employed Hell, my now ex developed a hot gall bladder. No insurance, we went for "help" to the appropriate agencies. Just 3 weeks into unemployment, they told me that I made too much. No kidding. It took three years to pay off the hospital bills, while eating Dollar store mac and cheese and going three years without replacement clothes.

People wonder why I loathe Liberals.

2 posted on 06/04/2018 1:11:13 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mike Rowe would probably have been the best choice to head up the unconstitutional department of education.


3 posted on 06/04/2018 2:20:21 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bmk


4 posted on 06/04/2018 3:43:29 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Thumper1960

Our standard of living is falling so quickly, working the jobs you describe in the NYC area wouldn’t even earn you enough to live within 50 miles of your job - if an employer would even choose you instead of a foreigner (we have millions of them here to replace the fleeing Americans).

I never knew how bad it was until I watched my teen children start working for the same wages I took home as a student 30 years ago - not inflation-adjusted, but THE SAME PAY. Gasoline was less than $1 per gallon back then; EVERYTHING costs more, but they get the same paycheck. Much of the wages associated with the jobs Mike Rowe describes are found in some areas but not others; I’ve only seen a few episodes, but I doubt he does shows in areas where employers prefer plentiful cheap immigrant labor.


5 posted on 06/04/2018 3:50:49 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent article, 2DV! I agree with it all and am sending it on to others.


6 posted on 06/04/2018 3:59:19 AM PDT by octex
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Last year my daughter worked at the local pizza joint, her first job. After awhile she came back and said she hated it, the manager was disorganized, couldn’t (wouldn’t) get basic tasks done, etc. After a couple of days of complaining about it I told her to stop complaining, and think of ways she could improve things - even if it meant doing her manager’s job for her.

So she straightened and organized things. Took inventory. Would call other stores so they could get stuff that hadn’t been ordered to their shop. Even running across the street to the grocery store to buy supplies (mushrooms, black olives, etc.) when needed.

She still complained about her manager of course. After she quit to go back to school, the manager’s boss was emailing my daughter if she could come back and just work part time during school. By that time she had already found other work that was more flexible.

Of course making pizzas isn’t rocket science - and it’s not a career. But - the work ethic, management, people skills (irate customers), etc. - one can put those to good use in any career.

I’m a “professional”? consultant. When I’m out on projects the welders, pipe fitters, crane operators.... they all drive nicer trucks than me and talk about better vacations and bigger hunting trips. Now granted, some of them might be in debt to their eyeballs with their $80,000 truck - but I think most of them do very well.

(I tried to get my daughter into welding, but....)


7 posted on 06/04/2018 4:02:09 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Thumper1960
First, I admire your work ethic and tenacity. You deserve a lot of respect.

Second, the gallbladder surgery issue really irritates me, and I don't want to get off the topic of this thread too far - but feel the need to comment.

The surgeon's fee for a cholecystectomy is generally $2000 - $3500. Add in the hospital costs, however, and total charges can be anywhere from $12,000 to over $90,000. All Obamacare did was to increase these prices, by a variety of mechanisms. Most places in the world have hospital administrative fees that are between 8% and 15% of costs. In the US it is currently 26% - 29%, and has been rising. You won't see that listed on your bill, but it's there - along with a ton of other hidden costs that are reflected in what your room rate is and the cost of medication, supplies, etc. It's out of control, and it is not driven by physician fees. It's not fair that you got stuck with three years of financial hell because of a gallbladder.

8 posted on 06/04/2018 4:31:37 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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I’m a huge fan of Mike Rowe’s attitude.

Years ago, I lost my job due to the economy. I fed my family by doing lots of handyman work and house painting.

One of my kids just graduated college as an aerospace engineer. His first summer home, he said he needed to find a job. I told him a buddy of mine needed a grunt for his home remodeling company. Within an hour, he was heading toward the jobsite. He worked for him for two summers and learned lifetime skills.

Another son has no interest at all in college and wants to do a trade. 100% support. He’s 18 and just got his Class A CDL to drive semi’s. He has a summer commitment and already has a job lined up in August making over $45,000. A buddy of his works for his uncle’s heavy equipment company. Someone else just offered him $16 an hour to come work for him.

Drug free tradesmen are in a position to almost name their price.


9 posted on 06/04/2018 5:13:15 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: 21twelve

Great story. I love hearing about kids who make it work. A few years ago, I stopped at a Checker’s for a burger and a coke. The girl said the coke machine was broke. I suggested she take $20 out of the till and go across the street and buy cans of coke to serve the customers. She said she’d probably get in trouble. I offered her my phone number and told her if her manager got on her case, have him call me. I’ll set him straight on actual customer service.


10 posted on 06/04/2018 5:17:16 AM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
show up early, stay late, and cheerfully volunteer for every crappy task there is.”

That alone is the reason I have a really good job overseas. I was willing, in the military, to volunteer for every class, every deployment and every TDY. Everyone else wanted to party on the weekends and didn't like going anywhere, I went everywhere.

4 tours in GTMO, 3 tours in AFG, 1 tour in Bosnia, 1 tour in Iraq, classes in everything from basic E&E to Russian and Serbian.

Children and wife have seen pretty much every part of the world there is, and my three adult children even followed me to Sierra Leone, knowing that wherever I went, they would probably find jobs. Which they did and the oldest aid off all her college loans.
11 posted on 06/04/2018 5:34:35 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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The BLS just published a statistic last week that now a record number of Americans are out of the labor force.


12 posted on 06/04/2018 6:05:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: kearnyirish2

[I never knew how bad it was until I watched my teen children start working for the same wages I took home as a student 30 years ago - not inflation-adjusted, but THE SAME PAY. Gasoline was less than $1 per gallon back then; EVERYTHING costs more, but they get the same paycheck. Much of the wages associated with the jobs Mike Rowe describes are found in some areas but not others; I’ve only seen a few episodes, but I doubt he does shows in areas where employers prefer plentiful cheap immigrant labor.]


I’ll second your recollection. It’s pretty incredible how continued large scale mass immigration, illegal and legal, has reshaped the wage environment. Australia and Britain used to have much lower salaries, ranging from 1/2 to 2/3 US wages. Now, they’re roughly equivalent or higher. The GOP base is riled up because of this, not racism. It’s one thing to get a lot of foreign influences when there’s a lot of wage growth, and quite another to watch the people depressing your wages tell you that you need to learn their language.


13 posted on 06/04/2018 6:40:19 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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To: 21twelve

Work ethic is white nationalism... as is success. I’m sure about that.

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/mike-rowe-got-called-white-nationalist-answer-will-leave-stunned/


14 posted on 06/04/2018 7:12:11 AM PDT by FiddlePig (The biggest threat to your sacred liberty is to not value it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have degrees in geology, pharmacy and a minor in chemistry. I obtained the money to go to school the first time by roughnecking on the drilling rigs. It was hot, dirty and dangerous. It paid well. I was lucky to have that job.
Many years later when I graduated in pharmacy I had only 8000 dollars of debt.

If you are willing to work our great nation will provide you with unlimited opportunities.


15 posted on 06/04/2018 7:52:14 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: FiddlePig

Well worth the read. Mike Rowe is da Man.


16 posted on 06/04/2018 8:08:07 AM PDT by moovova
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To: wbarmy

Thank you for your service.


17 posted on 06/04/2018 8:58:57 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: neverevergiveup
Thank you. I appreciate that.

My parents taught me to do whatever I could to never be a burden to anyone else. Work while in school and have something ready to go at graduation. That was the rule.

We might have been much better off, had not the gall bladder issue arose. As it was, the choice was have a home and food or COBRA. That was easy. You work with a cold or a flu, broken finger or strains and aches. Nothing is supposed to be easy. Those who came before all of us, those settlers and pioneers, now THEY had it tough.

18 posted on 06/04/2018 2:47:35 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
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To: cyclotic
<>Drug free tradesmen are in a position to almost name their price<>

That's the situation here in north Florida. The market for the trades is so tight that HVAC business owners on local radio stations plead for motivated high school grads to apprentice.

19 posted on 06/04/2018 3:03:33 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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Good story and I see this a lot where I work ... a lot of younger people can’t get or keep a job because of drugs.

Last summer DD ended up working in a metal fab shop. Not her first choice, but, long story short, she showed up on time, did her job even on the hot end, didn’t complain or antagonize anybody ... and went home. Came back on time every day all summer. She had to train others of her age group who gave up after a day or two, and she had no patience for them.

Her employers were dropping big hints that if the “college thing” didn’t work out she could go back any time.

I’m glad she worked in a factory just one summer. That and baling hay for Dad and me made her appreciate college and a future accounting job :-)


20 posted on 06/04/2018 3:26:10 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem ...)
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