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Steny Hoyer Caught On Tape Trying To Rig Colorado House Race!
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Posted on 04/29/2018 4:31:42 AM PDT by gaggs

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To: gaggs

This is just run-of_the-mill politics. Parties do this all the time. Enough hype.


21 posted on 04/29/2018 6:52:18 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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"It wasn’t personal, Hoyer insisted, and there was nothing uniquely unfair being done to Tillemann, he explained: This is how the party does it everywhere."

Tht's the most important part of this

22 posted on 04/29/2018 6:52:20 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: gaggs; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maryland ping


23 posted on 04/29/2018 7:42:35 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: cgbg

Like us I guess they view even then they are better than the opposition. Often times I have had to hold my nose and vote for the Republican just because he might deliver according to my desires occasionally. Whereas I know the Democrat will never do so.


24 posted on 04/29/2018 7:49:51 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: SauronOfMordor

Nothing, if you think the party-identifying voters shouldn’t have any role in selecting the candidate for the seat.

If that is the case, why hold a primary election, at all? “Winning” the primary election would then be nothing more than a bit of small “d” democratic-process fiction papering over the Democratic Party’s dictatorship.

American politicians are good at that: honoring in solemn pronouncements the virtues of a supposedly neutral process while simultaneously subverting it. The 2016 Democratic Party Presidental primary season being a stellar example.


25 posted on 04/29/2018 8:05:18 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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I don’t see anything criminal in a party official telling a candidate that the other candidate has a better chance of winning, and that he should drop out and avoid a primary battle.

What’s criminal about it?

Probably it would only be illegal if there was an expressed payoff for dropping out (support us in this race and I'll see to it that you'll get a plum position in the DCCC for the next election cycle, etc...), and experienced politicians are rarely dumb enough to do that, at least face to face. An associate or donor may call later and 'have a great opportunity' later, but it's all plausibly deniable by the actual politician.

The real crime caught on tape here is moral, not legal. It is rampant on both sides as Hoyer admits, and it is poison to the Republic.

The GOP has clearly been interfering in primaries for years to keep their establishment incumbents in place and avoid serious primary fights. What they never seem to understand is there is such a distaste for establishment politicians, that rank amateurs and absolute wildcards take the place of better options. When they win, the whole party is smeared as a bunch of loons and the establishment doubles down on the same losing bet.

I hope this does end up going viral and leading Republicans get shamed into backing out of their own primary interference activities.

26 posted on 04/29/2018 8:25:33 AM PDT by jz638
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Same as conservatives and the GOP.......


27 posted on 04/29/2018 10:15:17 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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When the Bush League Republican loses the primary they help the Democrat win. They have done this repeatedly, in AL, MO, IN, DE, NV, etc.


28 posted on 04/29/2018 10:17:30 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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