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WI: Gunfight, Home Invader Killed, Headline: Victim Identified
Gun Watch ^ | 18 November, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/06/2017 4:47:42 AM PST by marktwain



Many self defense shootings are not reported in the media. Many are not entered as justified homicides in the FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR). A self defense shooting, which included a justified homicide, occurred in the 800  block of Waugoo Avenue, in Oshkosh, Wisconsin,at night, on November 5th, 2017.

The initial reporting did not include any indication this was a justified self defense shooting.

The headline: Oshkosh shooting victim identified. From nbc26.com: Nov. 6, 2017
OSHKOSH, Wis. - An 18-year-old Appleton man is dead after a shooting in Oshkosh. Police said a suspect is still at large.

Police identified Cashmiere A.S. Hill as the victim.
Nine days later, this report is made about the incident on Waugoo Avenue.  There is no indication that the shooting was justified self defense.

The headline:  Three arrested in connection to fatal Oshkosh shooting. From nbc26.com:  Nov. 15, 2017
OSHKOSH, Wis. - Three men have been arrested in connectoSHion to an armed robbery that ended in the fatal shooting of a teenager in Oshkosh.

Cashmiere A.S. Hill, 18, was killed in the shooting on Waugoo Avenue on November 5.
On November 16, we get this report. There is a hint the shooting was justified. A man is charged with felony murder. The headline:

Man charged with murder in connection to fatal Oshkosh shootingFrom nbc26.com:  Nov. 16, 2017
According to a criminal complaint, several people planned to rob a man on the 800 block of Waugoo Avenue after he posted on Facebook about winning thousands of dollars at the casino.

That group included Summers and Cashmiere Hill, 18, of Appleton.

The man fought off the armed robbers once, but Hill then returned and the man shot at him in what he said was self-defense, court documents said.
On the afternoon of 16 November, 50 miles away, in Green Bay, a reporter obtains the police report.  WBAY gves a reasonably detailed account.

The headline: Complaint: man shot and killed during robbery attempt in Oshkosh.  From wbay.com:
An 18-year-old Appleton man was shot and killed by the target of a robbery at an apartment in Oshkosh, according to a criminal complaint obtained by Action 2 News.

Tory Summers, 28, has been charged with Felony Murder in connection to the death of Cashmiere A.S. Hill. Summers is also charged with Armed Robbery and Burglary.

On Nov. 5, Oshkosh Police were called to a report of a shooting in the 800 block of Waugoo Ave. Officers arrived on scene to find Cashmiere Hill on the sidewalk outside of an apartment complex.

An investigator entered the apartment and found blood on the door to the entrance, handrails and steps.

Police located the alleged target of the robbery, who had a gunshot wound on his right forearm. The man told police that he had been watching a movie in his living room when he heard glass breaking in his kitchen. He went to check it out and found a man trying to get into his home.
It is a clear example of a self defense shooting. The victim was targeted in his home. He was subject to home invasion aimed at robbing him. There were multiple assailants. He was shot at and wounded while defending himself. He killed one of the home invaders. You would not know it from reading most of the coverage.

Only the last headline hints the homicide was justified.

One of the suspects has been charged with Felony Murder. There is no wording to indicate this was a home invasion.

Is this self defense shooting going to be entered in the FBI Uniform Crime Reports as a justified homicide? Unlikely. A suspect is being charged with the homicide. There are no charges against the wounded victim.

Fox news had a more neutral headline on 6 November: From Fox11news.com:
Man killed, another wounded in Oshkosh shooting
The news organizations depend on the police a great deal. The police have to investigate the situation. That takes time.  The victim does not want to be identified and targeted. That leaves an information void for the media. That explains part of the problem.

Why not this headline:  Home Invasion, Defender Wounded, 1 Invader Killed

By November 16, the facts were known. A headline featuring self defense would have attracted many readers.

The media are biased against self defense. The FBI UCR rules are biased against reporting justified homicides.  Only 20% of justified homicides are recorded by the FBI.

There is tremendous understatement of armed self defense in the United States.

©2017 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

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TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; homeinvasion; oskosh; secondamendment; wisconsin
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An incredible story... Defense against armed home invaders, buried among several stories over time.
1 posted on 12/06/2017 4:47:42 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
after he posted on Facebook about winning thousands of dollars at the casino.

Incredibly stupid!

2 posted on 12/06/2017 4:54:15 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: marktwain

NBC....no surprise there


3 posted on 12/06/2017 5:08:26 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: marktwain

Reveals what the left thinks. The criminal has the right to waltz in and take what is “rightfully” his from his “oppressors.” They want to take guns from non-violent people to enable the criminals and leave the good guys defenseless.


4 posted on 12/06/2017 5:11:43 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: marktwain

The media are biased against self defense. The FBI UCR rules are biased against reporting justified homicides. Only 20% of justified homicides are recorded by the FBI.


5 posted on 12/06/2017 5:12:57 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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“Cashmiere A.S. Hill, 18, was killed in the shooting”

Do what!?


6 posted on 12/06/2017 5:22:35 AM PST by V_TWIN (oks like)
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To: grobdriver
Incredibly stupid!

Please clarify - the posting of his winnings on Facebook, or being on Facebook in the first place? In my opinion, they're pretty much the same thing.

7 posted on 12/06/2017 5:22:36 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (If we're going to look at nature to justify our actions, then I say let's start flinging poop around)
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To: grobdriver
"Incredibly stupid!"

As dumb as showing off pictures of your guns on facebook or in a youtube video.

8 posted on 12/06/2017 5:25:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: marktwain
The deceased.


9 posted on 12/06/2017 5:36:47 AM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: csvset

PS Work boots, never been used.


10 posted on 12/06/2017 5:41:59 AM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
Heh.
Yes.
11 posted on 12/06/2017 5:43:32 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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I like happy endings...😀. Are they space aliens?
12 posted on 12/06/2017 5:49:59 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: csvset

As I figured — space aliens!!


13 posted on 12/06/2017 5:51:40 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: grobdriver

Not so stupid he didnt have a gun for protection, but yes, folks should try not to wave big wads of money around.


14 posted on 12/06/2017 6:13:24 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

Agreed.


15 posted on 12/06/2017 6:22:54 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: csvset

To the homeowner: Good shooting. Civilization thanks you.


16 posted on 12/06/2017 6:23:45 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: marktwain

Sorta reminds me of the old cowboy movie plots where the oldtimer comes to town bragging about his rich gold strike, only to be murdered by the bad guys.


17 posted on 12/06/2017 6:25:08 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: marktwain

Wouldn’t the home owner be the victim and the dead housebreaker be the perpetrator?


18 posted on 12/06/2017 6:26:17 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: grobdriver

I guess at least one of them could read. I also assume none of them ever heard of a bank.


19 posted on 12/06/2017 6:29:25 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: DoodleDawg

Anti-Second Amendment media often call criminals shot in the course of their criminal activity the “victim”.


20 posted on 12/06/2017 6:33:56 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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