Posted on 11/20/2017 9:59:56 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
And you want America to take you seriously?! Puhleeze!
I have a vivid memory of putting on my mother’s high heels and covering my head with the veiled hat she wore on special occasions. All decked out, I made my way up The Boulevard in New Haven to our neighbor’s home about four houses away.
And on that sojourn, I have an equally vivid memory of a man sitting on his porch and stopping me in my tracks with his comments. “Well well well, Missy, don’t we look pretty! And where would you be going today looking so beautiful?”
It was a single moment in time, but in that instant, I knew that it felt very good to be noticed and called attractive.
It gets to the heart of it.
The problem is that our modern culture, beginning with Gen X have forgotten that men and women are sexual creatures and are the way they are because that is the way they were designed, not because society made them that way.
There is so much going on in this dynamic between powerful men and young attractive women that it’s not even funny. And don’t think only one side benefits a good amount of the time.
The difference between sexual harassment and workplace dating can be found in the eye of the receiving party.
If she finds the man non-attractive it is harassment. If she wouldn’t mind him as a dating or mating partner then all is fine
To them porn is sex and it is not the totality of sex. Sex involves feelings of love and attraction and appreciation. These aspects of sex have been beaten out of many Americans as prudish, corny or sexist.
It has been the way of the world forever.
The fact is that young women have more leverage and power in the United States at this time, than they have every had before in the history of the world.
Much of what we are seeing is older women’s desire to keep young women from competing with them for powerful men.
SUPER ARTICLE. Thanks for posting!
It’s what I’ve been reading on FR, but filled out and beautifully expressed. Great article.
it is an old cliché of feminism is for jealous ugly women.
looking at hollyweird how many actresses (and actors) would jump on a couch for a big enough acting shot?
remember when all the outrage over the movie indecent proposal (couple sells night with wife for two million). you had a parade of ugly woman outrage....as if anyone would want them.
Here’s a scenario some people need to think about:
A female employee walks into the office in a mini-skirt, high heels, and a tight shirt. The older happily married boss looks at her for what seems like an inappropriate amount of time - certainly checking out her legs and cleavage. Is the boss thinking
A) How can I get her into bed?
—or—
B) Did she cross the line this time?
She always ignores the dress code but is this time too far?
Are any clients coming to the office today?
Will that client mind?
Could she accuse the client of sexual harassment if they complain (or stare)?
Can her team arrange a meeting so the clients won’t see her?
I hope she’s wearing panties? What I see now is already too much distraction - single males will try for a better view and most females will gossip. Both have caused me an HR problem before.
I’m glad I don’t have daughters.
Can I get HR to talk to her before a certain client visits next?
If I go to HR Will she accuse me of not being able to control my impulses and say it’s my problem, not hers (I often stare are her when she dresses like that and that’s harassment)?
How can I hire better in the future and still avoid EEOC complaints?
Which option is more likely to have just happened? Did you assume the boss is a man? Does it matter? Is option B believable if the boss is a woman? If so, why not a male boss?
Option (A) just needs a quick glance. Option (B) may take an “inappropriate” amount of time - there are A LOT of concerns going through the boss’s mind.
Both benefit. Just look at two Hollywood marriages: CZJ and Michael Douglas and Bogart-Bad all. Somehow I think both Michael and Bogie hit on their respective ladies before getting married to them.
The Roman Senator Cicero said ‘We rule the world and our women rule us’
“A LOT of concerns going through the boss’s mind.”
Especially the happily married part.
I’ve chosen option B a number of times. One female employee tended to dress a bit provocatively with the intent of causing trouble. She also held the record for filing complaints. The big corporate HR department always took her side, firing some for merely saying “good morning “.
The cosmetics business is certainly booming for women (and gays) more than it ever has. Right there tells you women are all about attracting someone. Their heels are getting higher and skinnier every new season and for what purpose? It’s certainly not for the wearer’s comfort. Same with underwire bras and thong underwear. Women’s clothing has gone from mulitiple layers of floor length petticoats to less than a yard of fabric. Skirts are short and necklines are low. And those catcalls that are deemed revolting? Puleeze! Women dress to impress... the men. The more attention they get, the better. But let a fudgly man cross wherever the line is that day, they’ll scream harassment.
BTW, I’m a woman.
I actually had that scenario happen with a very tall and attractive high school senior intern. She showed up for work in a tube top, open midriff, and tight pants. I called my senior Admin Assistant, who was an older lwoman, into my office and asked her to tell this young gal that she was not dressed appropriately for work.
The message coming from her gave the young woman the impression that her grandmother was giving her advice. She never dressed like that again.
I get the sense that we’re entering a new puritanical age, but a sicker one. I haven’t quite put my finger yet on what makes it sick, but it feels that way.
It’s sick because it’s so schizophrenic!
Sexually, just about anything goes these days; and at the same time people act like complete prudes when it benefits them.
Disagree with this article. She is talking abut compliments or showing interest in a romantic something with the woman. THAT IS NOT HARRASSMENT. Only foolish idiots think it is.
Holy crap. This whole subject began with Ronan Farrow daring to expose the Great Harvey Weinstein, he who must not be named, after decades of Harvey “exposing himself” and including full on rape.
People asking each other out at work is a NON ISSUE.
It’s about “suck my d*** if you want the job” or “you got the job, now suck it or I will make sure you never work again.”
Let’s not confuse the two.
For people who might want to hook up with someone at work, it is SO EASY to know where lines can be crossed. Here are the three simple rules.
1. If the person you’re interested in works under your supervision (or is your supervisor), you are out of luck. Forget about it.
2. You must ask them to join you OFF PREMISES. To coffee, for a ride to work, to hear music, to get a beer. This lets them know you are interested in them non professionally.
3. If you work together, and you ask them as per #2 above, and they say no, you may not ask again. They know, now, of your interest, and if they wish to engage with you, they will suggest something. At work, you only get the one ask.
It’s so easy. The above is clear and can’t ever be called harrassment even by total weenies who don’t like compliments.
And all those kids necking in the park and the drive-ins in the 60s...were illusions.
It’s sick because it’s one sided....anti-male.
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