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To: surroundedbyblue
I hate to be a conspiracy theorist but this stinks.

It just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

  1. Initial reports had 19 weapons, on the 3rd or 4th I was waiting in an office and they had the news on where they scrolled by 45. (I've also heard 23 and 42.)
    Odd how the number kept changing.
  2. The fact that he had so many guns, even the smallest number (19) would have been rather challenging to bring in without arousing suspicion.
    (And here the hotel worker said he didn't have many bags.)
  3. Also, there's the fact that 19 guns is excessive for a one-man operation.
    (The official story is, and [TTBOMK] has always been, that this was a lone wolf incident.)
  4. The fact that the shooting sounds so very regular, like full auto rate of fire.
    (ie Not what I would expect a bump-stock or similar gimmick to sound like.)
  5. The fact that people heard two shooters.
    Granted, acoustics can do some funny things, but there's this guy… and eyewitnesses.

19 posted on 10/14/2017 9:36:22 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Edward.Fish

It just keeps getting weirder and weirder.


No, it doesn’t. Not when you consider the unreliability of early reporting and updates as more information is aquired.

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Initial reports had 19 weapons, on the 3rd or 4th I was waiting in an office and they had the news on where they scrolled by 45. (I’ve also heard 23 and 42.)
Odd how the number kept changing.


I do not find it odd at all. The 40+ number is the total found in his residences and at the Hotel.

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The fact that he had so many guns, even the smallest number (19) would have been rather challenging to bring in without arousing suspicion.


A trivial number to bring to a Hotel room in baggage, without suspicion. Consider the Shot Show in Las Vegas. Some exhibitors bring in hundreds of guns.

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(And here the hotel worker said he didn’t have many bags.)


Already covered.

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Also, there’s the fact that 19 guns is excessive for a one-man operation.
(The official story is, and [TTBOMK] has always been, that this was a “lone wolf” incident.)


Why? The guy had a lot of guns. He had a lot of time. He was rather obsessive/compulsive.

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The fact that the shooting sounds so very regular, like full auto rate of fire.
(ie Not what I would expect a bump-stock or similar gimmick to sound like.)


Have you much experience with bump stocks? I suggest you look at some bump stock videos on Youtube. The sounds do not seem anomalous to me.

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The fact that people heard two shooters.
Granted, acoustics can do some funny things, but there’s this guy… and eyewitnesses.


You are right about the acoustics. They do all sort of strange things. The shooter also had different calibers, different guns, and different positions to shoot from.


38 posted on 10/14/2017 9:48:55 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Edward.Fish

I don’t normally believe in most conspiracy theories, but the more this goes on the more I start to believe he might have been running guns for the FBI and the sting went bad somehow. If this happened the FBI would move heaven and earth to cover it up.


53 posted on 10/14/2017 10:08:48 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: Edward.Fish

“The fact that he had so many guns, even the smallest number (19) would have been rather challenging to bring in without arousing suspicion.”

Not really. Numerous people have mentioned on these threads about all the trade shows in Vegas and the displays and equipment that people bring in and out. Bring 19 guns in a room inside their cases would be a a big deal at all. He was there I think several days in advance.

“Also, there’s the fact that 19 guns is excessive for a one-man operation.”

Why?
The guy had tons of money.
He was incredibly evil and very intelligent. Who knows why anyone would have done this.
No human reason; just pure evil.


61 posted on 10/14/2017 10:16:36 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: Edward.Fish

the guns break down into 20” or smaller pieces. 4 suitcases, 5 or 6 guns each. Another 6 suitcases for the ammo/accessories.

The shooter anticipated being able to shoot for longer than 10 minutes. It appears he grabbed a new weapon instead of reloading. He anticipated the barrels melting/warping. So, yes, he would need more than a few guns to light up 3000 rounds or whatever the end count turns out to be. The number of guns found in his home(s) are immaterial and the only real reason to include them in the count is the ‘fear factor’. In reality, a person can have a hundred guns and be no threat. Or one and be a murderer.

That said, maybe he didn’t bring all the guns up. Maybe, someone brought some to him to sell. He had a large (to us) sum of money in his vehicle. Nobody’s said what he had in his pocket. And not all the guns trace back to him. For sure, we know that some of the ammo was bought by someone else. Without hall tapes, at the very least, elevator bank tapes, we don’t know all the puzzle pieces.


151 posted on 10/14/2017 1:02:07 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Edward.Fish

This so stinks of a Fast n Furious false flag op. Soros likely involved with deep state Dems to get gun legislation banning semi autos that can be made into machine guns with ‘rate increasing device’


282 posted on 10/15/2017 7:09:28 AM PDT by Freedom_2_ADM
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