Posted on 10/10/2017 8:28:45 AM PDT by Starman417
Edited on 10/10/2017 8:51:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The investigation of the shooting in Las Vegas continues. A crime scene so massive and with so many different scenarios will be completely covered and no question will go unanswered. Sheriff Joseph Lombardo is doing a masterful job and both he and other investigators have worked countless hours attempting to find out the what and why of what happened.
As always, we will not get all the answers that the American people are seeking. In the aftermath of the worst mass shooting in American history it is imperatives that the answers are clear, concise and honest. I am convinced that at the end of all the investigations, and the media has moved on to the next major story, there will still be questions about why this happened and how did it happen.
Questions remain, some may be just conspiracy and some may be factual. In either case, they are questions that need to be answered. One question is that the authorities are stating that Paddock did not check in until September 28th. A question arises when individuals who work at the Mandalay Bay assert that Paddock ordered room service on the 27th for two people. Who was that other person and why are authorities stating that Paddock did not check in until the 28th? Sources at the Mandalay Bay are claiming that Paddock actually checked in on the 25th.
Paddock, an out of shape former accountant with no military training is not capable of pulling this off by himself. With no experience in guns, how could he have fired as rapidly and accurately as he did. As a military veteran and have experience with fully automatic weapons, they can be hard to control, jam easily and tend to overheat. Using an automatic weapon effectively takes extensive training and experience in the use of such weapons. Being a retired accountant senior citizen, I do not understand how Paddock had the skill or the stamina to fire for so long.The overheating is also a reason why suppressors (silences in Hillarys vernacular) are never used on such weapons. They have a tendency to melt and more quickly jam the gun.
How is law enforcement convinced that there was only one shooter? There are pictures that clearly show rifle fire from a lower window. And why are there recordings of law enforcement talking of another possible suspect on the fourth floor?
At the scene of the crime, why were all the exits blocked. Those 22,000 happy concert goers found themselves trapped, with ability to get out or to seek cover. The ten foot walls kept the multitude of people in the fire zone with no way out.
I have been to Las Vegas many times, living in Southern California and I can not understand how anyone, much less Paddock can carry so many weapons and ammunition into a room without being seen.
Even Trey Gowdy, the no nonsense Representative from South Carolina is skeptical. In Rep. Gowdy’s words, he is skeptical that the amount of premeditation and can not believe that a single person could have done this without assistance.
Further questions include: why so many rifles and weapons if there was only one shooter. Were the rifles that were there for another shooter? Were they all Paddock’s weapons and was he funded by others to have that so many weapons?
Paddock was found dead in his room by a self inflicted gunshot wound. Law enforcement states that he shot himself when they blew the door open to his room. Is there a ballistic report on the bullet that killed him that will close out that part of the investigation?
The broken windows on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay are the supposed site where the firing of the bullets that killed 58 people took place. Automatic weapons have a very pronounced flash, why were there no flashes from the 32nd floor? I have not heard whether flash suppressors were used, but even then there would be some flash. There are purported to be flashes from the 4th floor, but that has not been confirmed. The audio of the online videos and other videos it clearly be heard overlapping gunfire from two different weapons. Barring any further explanation, how can Paddock be responsible for all the carnage.'
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...
The guy clearly had video equipment set up. have they released any info about what was on it? How much? Did he have any video/audio in the room? During the shooting? Have any of these questions even been asked?
While I have not been following the latest conspiracy theory of the day, my understanding is they base the 2nd guest on nothing more than a room service receipt listing two people. But since when does room service care how many people are in the room? I have never had that question asked even once. He ordered two Pepsis & a water. That proves nothing. He may have simply wanted two Pepsis with his meal or to save one.
I have been to Las Vegas many times, living in Southern California and I can not understand how anyone, much less Paddock can carry so many weapons and ammunition into a room without being seen.
Easy. Hotel employees do not care what you are carrying into your room so long as it's not totally obvious & dangerous. They have better things to do than keep specific tabs on hundreds of guests, gamblers & attendees at trade shows & conferences. Has this guy really been to Vegas?
Yes. The cameras were not set up to record. Nothing but live stream from the cameras on the iPad he used.
Thanks.
Seems no amount of answers stop such questions.
Check-in dates reported come from fragmentary evidence. It’s a matter of reporting, not hotel logs (which aren’t being officially released). _When_ he arrived is pretty irrelevant to the fact that he inflicted near 600 casualties.
Firing a bump-stock rifle for most of a 100-round magazine isn’t that hard. Doesn’t take long to figure out how to do it. This isn’t rocket surgery, it’s a few hours at the range and the money for practice ammo. When one gun malfunctioned, he just picked up the next of two dozen rifles.
Those “shooter on lower floor” videos have been debunked. There were flashing lights (fire alarms, entertainment strobes, whatever). What I’ve seen blinked after the last shots.
The exits were blocked because venues don’t want people sneaking in after the concert starts. Dumb, maybe illegal, but standard procedure.
People bringing lots of luggage into a hotel room isn’t bizarre. Conferences sometimes require lots of gear. Long stays may bring much luggage. None of the hotel’s business. And no, 23 guns plus ammo really don’t take up all that much space if compactly stored.
It’s stupid easy to do. Pay porter to bring luggage to room. Set up. Smash window. Grab gun, fire until empty/failure, repeat.
Lots of guns because he didn’t know how long he had nor what he’d need. Again, not hard to bring ‘em. When one fails, grab another.
Yes there will be a ballistic report on the suicide. Not our business to know yet. I’ve seen the photo, matches the claim (entry wound under chin, lots o blood emanating from top/back of skull).
Flashes were reported by witnesses, and recorded on better video cameras. Worse video cameras probably can’t pick up that brief image in such a well-lit (!) area. The rifles used typically come with flash suppressors.
“Overlapping gunfire” is characteristic of echos. There’s lots of big reflective surfaces in the area.
Fire near-full-auto into a large dense crowd, and you’ll (A) kill a lot of people, (B) injure a lot of people, (C) scare a lot of people enough that they’ll hurt themselves & each other in the process.
This.
Isn’t.
Hard.
To.
Understand.
“With no experience in guns”
And his reference for this is ...
Can't seem to shake that idea.
“entry wound under chin”?
ML/NJ
Perhaps none of us are detectives working for the Clark County Sherriff, or FBI?
There is NO entry wound under his chin.
There is blood on his shirt.
“There are pictures that clearly show rifle fire from a lower window. ”
There were only windows broken out on one floor from what I’ve read and from photos.
...Thin air.
Per the link below, "Paddock, an avid gun owner, was known to come into the firearms store on a regular basis — typically to have his rifles cleaned..."
IOW he was firing his rifles somewhere, and likely became proficient with them.
http://nypost.com/2017/10/04/vegas-shooter-seemed-upbeat-while-buying-guns-last-week/
"Paddock, an out of shape former accountant with no military training is not capable of pulling this off by himself. With no experience in guns, how could he have fired as rapidly and accurately as he did. As a military veteran and have experience with fully automatic weapons, they can be hard to control, jam easily and tend to overheat. Using an automatic weapon effectively takes extensive training and experience in the use of such weapons. Being a retired accountant senior citizen, I do not understand how Paddock had the skill or the stamina to fire for so long.The overheating is also a reason why suppressors (silences in Hillarys vernacular) are never used on such weapons. They have a tendency to melt and more quickly jam the gun."
How would room service know the number of guests if they did not enter the room?
Bump
YouTube is full of videos of flabby old white guys shooting guns. It's not really that physically demanding.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.