Posted on 08/14/2017 9:01:36 AM PDT by fruser1
Great points. Written better than my just posted comment.
I have yet to see anything that would warrant calling him a creep but OK. For certain, I have yet to see anything that would indicate he “decided to kill” anyone.
I think a good word to substitute for “Nationalism” for the time being would be “anti-globalist”. The Left is intentionally trying to paint people like me, a fervent “anti-globalist” as a racist, white nationalist. There is a very big difference in a grape and a grapefruit.
I didn’t click your link but I do believe Altura’s firsthand account about “those people” were about 3% of the attendees on Saturday.
I see it coming too. I am typing my fingers off to do what I can to avoid it but I am just one freeper with only ten fingers.
Every one on the planet comes t the USA for help.
We would not be in a position to help any more if we sink in status or abilities.
Both the Neo-NaziKKKWhiteSupremacist and the BlackLivesMatterCommunistAntiFa groups are abhorent.....
The Republican party, President and Consevatives have soundly condemned the NeoNaziKKKWhiteSupremacist groups...
However the BlackLivesMatterCommunistAntiFa groups have received positive accolades and tacit support from the Democratic party.....From what I can tell, they are the enforcement arm of the democratic party....
Both of those groups showed up prepared to fight and they both got what they want.....
Without national pride and shared heritage, there is no cohesiveness, no common cause, no patriotism. Cohesive societies are more stable and people feel safer than in balkanized societies, where societal standards of behavior are either fluid or nonexistent and people are distrustful of each other and more apt to conflict. The lesson of Rome still holds true. So no, hate and supremacy does not equal pride and nationalism. Balkanization and destruction of culture leads to hate. Just ask the hindus who have their holy places blown up by muslims.
Nationalism is having your own house in a neighborhood.
You can be good neighbors with those who share different values.
The problem comes when you force those with different values to live together under the same roof. That’s multiculturalism in a nutshell. Doesn’t mean one is better than the other, it’s just that having clashing cultures competing for the same resources, creates tensions.
What is the point of your post? Just say it flat out.
Excellent points.
Charlottesville was a staged event. Brought to us courtesy of Antifa and their useful idiots at Unite the Right.
9 dead in Chicago?? Yawn.
It depends on who you ask.
We are being manipulated into denial of pride in things which once motivated our better natures, because those who control much of the media and verbal arts have bought into a war on the actual diversity of populations, under the pretense of celebrating "diversity."
We are being "gamed," in other words, by those who want to submerge America--as well as other nations--into some form of humanist nightmare, usually referred to as a "new world order."
God willing, we will wake up, before it is too late. But no! Pride in values clearly traceable to the Fifth Commandment, do not equate to hate or mean -spirited treatment of others.
” Does Pride and Nationalism equate to Hate and Supremacy?”
If it does, then every country with an anthem and a flag is guilty!
Example: Any one who has ever watched the Olympics when all the nations, large and small.... troop the colors as their teams parade out into the arena, knows very well that pride and nationalism are entirely wholesome, necessary and in no way unique to the US.
And that is as it should be!
I suspect the reason most of these alt right kids that claim to be Nazis do so is because they are well aware they will be labeled as such so they might as well just get passed that and move on. Take the poison out of the accusation. To me it seems as silly to assume that by saying the are really Nazis as in “gas all the Jews” is as silly to believe they actually have an alter to Kek in their bedroom.
When the leftists say they want to kill white folks i kinda believe them. I don’t think I have a double standard here. Sure, I suspect a couple of these alt right folks actually do want to gas Jews but I suspect that those guys are more StormFront or something else and just trolling on 4chan.
Depends on what kind of pride and nationalism. I think that racial pride and nationalism is the flip side of the hate and supremacy coin, and this applies to all forms of racial pride and nationalism, not just white nationalism. It’s because race isn’t something in my opinion that one should take pride in and/or form a nation based on.
Where the left goes wrong in my opinion though is citizenship-based pride and nationalism. It certainly has its limits, but I do think it’s good to be proud of your country, and obviously, it’s goes without saying that a country is a valid basis for a nation, i.e. nationalism.
Any non white minority is expected to have pride and that is a good thing. Every non white group of Americans is allowed to have [group name] American pride.
There is a hierarchy of human groups in our country, with (self appointed) victim groups closer to Gd than non victims.
White Americans who are not gay or transgender or Muslim are NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY PRIDE. The only way for white Americans to have any redeeming value today is to worship non white victim groups and place them above whites in all public voting or discourse.
This is how I am seeing it, macro and micro, in the world today.
I hate it. I’d like a colorblind society where someone’s differences don’t hinder them from potential but also don’t place them above people who don’t have differences (like transgender). Other countries have citizens who are simply allowed to be proud citizens. I should be free to be a proud American even though I was born with pale skin and heterosexual.
No. And the issue is evidence of liberals’ double standard. Everyone else’s cultural pride is to be encouraged, everyone else to form an ethnic tribe with cohesiveness, but it is evil for whites to form a tribe or have pride in their culture.
Diversity means everyone else is better than whites and Western culture, and we need to replace them with what liberals think is better.
That is liberal racism.
nope. and I defend my southern heritage and will resist it’s defilement.
Charging him with second degree murder might be a problem if they cannot prove intent.
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