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Democrat’s made up legal case against Trump Campaign and Don JR (as of 7/12/2017)
MSNBC legal experts and VOX | 7/12/2017 | SOLs

Posted on 07/12/2017 7:46:34 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Last night on MSNBC each show had on Democrat ‘legal experts’ making the case that the Trump campaign just admitted to breaking federal law.

Brian Williams pointed out on his show (as did Britt Hume did on FNC ) that there is no law against ‘collusion’, before getting the following ‘legal’ opinions:

That the Trump campaign committed conspiracy to commit a crime which is a crime itself.
That the crime they committed conspiracy to commit was to violate of campaign finance law.
That they made an attempt to get a foreign campaign contribution from the foreign state Russia.

What was the (potential) campaign contribution from Russia to the Trump campaign?

It was negative information about Hillary Clinton.

Yep, that Don JR’s willingness to receive information negative on Hillary, maybe even evidence that she committed crimes, was itself a crime. (How about positive info?)

Lastly they say it was a crime even if Don JR never got that information from this Russian women.

That just talking to a foreign national about Hillary was a crime: conspiracy.

As a reference VOX makes this exact case here in writing.
Legal experts say Donald Trump Jr has just confessed to a federal crime (VOX Jul 11, 201)


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016election; conspiracy; russian; trump
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This is what they claim they have now, an admission of guilt.

Anyone here see any flaws in their case?

1 posted on 07/12/2017 7:46:34 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

Now Donald AND his son are living in their heads rent free. :)


2 posted on 07/12/2017 7:49:51 AM PDT by robroys woman
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They say that anyone Trump knows talking to any foreign national about Hillary was a crime.


3 posted on 07/12/2017 7:51:34 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: sickoflibs

LoL.


4 posted on 07/12/2017 7:53:09 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; BillyBoy; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Dems legal case on Trump, they claim its open and shut now.

That the Trump’s just admitted guilt to a crime.

Thought it be fun to mark this in case Trump is still POTUS at years end.


5 posted on 07/12/2017 7:54:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: Red Steel
This looks serious this time, see #4
6 posted on 07/12/2017 7:55:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: Red Steel

sorry, I mean #3


7 posted on 07/12/2017 7:56:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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Why do cops wait to bust a drug deal until money changes hands?


8 posted on 07/12/2017 7:56:42 AM PDT by Raycpa
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RE:”Why do cops wait to bust a drug deal until money changes hands?”

So if that Russian women gave Don JR a list of crimes that Hillary committed and where to find the evidence of them would that have made what Don did a crime?

9 posted on 07/12/2017 7:59:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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If somebody handed you a bag of heroin, would that be a crime?


10 posted on 07/12/2017 8:01:46 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Probably trying for a cover up/ perjury issue.

Jr almost fell into a trap with his different stories but negated the attempt by just releasing emails


11 posted on 07/12/2017 8:02:49 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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Yes, I was listening to a guy say that Jr was talking to “the Russians”. No. I was talking to people that happen to be russian. They were not “the” Russians.

The whole thing is actually comical. No laws were broken, nothing unethical was done. But since someone was Russian, it’s news. Russians are allowed to talk to americans and americans are allowed to talk to russians.

And then there is the first amendment. You know, the free speech thing.

If ever there was a “no there, there” issue, this is it.


12 posted on 07/12/2017 8:03:31 AM PDT by robroys woman
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“If somebody handed you a bag of heroin, would that be a crime?”

You really can’t be this dense....


13 posted on 07/12/2017 8:06:14 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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From the Vox article--

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[snip]“This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” Goldstone wrote to Trump Jr. “ “If it’s what you say I love it,” he replied.

How many people say, "Bless your little heart"?

Please send the smart phone app Idioms for Idiots to VOX.

14 posted on 07/12/2017 8:11:21 AM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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RE:”The whole thing is actually comical. No laws were broken, nothing unethical was done. But since someone was Russian, it’s news. Russians are allowed to talk to americans and americans are allowed to talk to russians.
And then there is the first amendment. You know, the free speech thing.”

Bingo you got it,
Recall the Citizen's United SCOTUS decision that Obama and these other libs whined about?

Free speech.

How can a $$$ value be assessed on information on Hillary's sleazy dealings as a contribution?

Its idiotic.

15 posted on 07/12/2017 8:12:19 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: safeasthebanks

Thanks!

You get the point!


16 posted on 07/12/2017 8:13:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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To: safeasthebanks

Sure he can.


17 posted on 07/12/2017 8:14:41 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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It was negative information about Hillary Clinton.

That just talking to a foreign national about Hillary was a crime: conspiracy.

So, republicans attempting to gather differing opinion information on a political opponent "violates" the proglib comrats who are then forced to attack republicans in their self defense and it is illegal to try to stop them?

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18 posted on 07/12/2017 8:19:47 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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RE:”So, republicans attempting to gather differing opinion information on a political opponent “violates” the proglib comrats who are then forced to attack republicans in their self defense and it is illegal to try to stop them?”

This is the case they are making, and that Don Jr's admissions and emails convict him(and the whole Trump 2016 campaign) of conspiracy to find out more about Hillary's sleazy and possible illegal dealings.

McCain and Graham seem pretty upset about it.

Joe Scarbouro just quit the GOP over it.

19 posted on 07/12/2017 8:23:39 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Message to Trump : I am not tired of winning yet. Please more winning ! Get your crap together fast!)
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McCain and Graham seem pretty upset about it.

Well, they can prove it by just following Joe out the door...

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20 posted on 07/12/2017 8:33:45 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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