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I Know You’re Mad at United but… (Thoughts from a Pilot Wife About Flight 3411)
The Pilot's Wife ^ | 4/11/17 | AngeliaJGriffin

Posted on 04/13/2017 9:36:43 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

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Mixed thoughts. While this guy may have gotten a raw deal, there is legal recourse available in cases like this, the video that went viral only shows this him being forcefully dragged off the plane by security, but NOT the events leading up to this situation. A lot like the Michael Brown and other apparent cases of excessive force and police brutality.
1 posted on 04/13/2017 9:36:43 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa
If a federal law enforcement officer asks me to exit a plane, no matter how royally pissed off I am, I’m going to do it and then seek other means of legal reimbursement. True story.

I thought they were Chicago Airport Security thugs, not Feds, like TSA or FBI..................

2 posted on 04/13/2017 9:39:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: Impala64ssa

The thing they could have done is kept upping the price until someone took the deal.


3 posted on 04/13/2017 9:40:07 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Impala64ssa

“Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither.”


4 posted on 04/13/2017 9:40:48 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Can’t wait until HyperLoop travel will make air travel obsolete. Flying anywhere is miserable these days. Better to go by auto if you can drive it in less than 3 hrs. The stupid clods at United could have chartered a jet for those four late arriving crew members and saved millions for the company. This is just common sense, which the cheap skates in charge should have considered when they offered such a measly sum to deplane.


5 posted on 04/13/2017 9:42:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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If United wanted to send 4 employees to another city for another flight, they should have handled the situation before allowing passengers to board.

The passenger that was pulled off the plane suffered a concussion, broken nose and he lost two teeth according to a FOX news report.

6 posted on 04/13/2017 9:43:34 AM PDT by scripter
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To: Impala64ssa

This whole incident, including the behavior of both the airline and the passenger, reinforces my dislike of flying.

With inconsiderate TSA perverts, inconsiderate crews, and inconsiderate passengers, if there is any reasonable alternative. I don’t fly.


7 posted on 04/13/2017 9:44:00 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Impala64ssa

Did screaming girly-’doctor’ actually get back onto the flight?


8 posted on 04/13/2017 9:44:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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To: Impala64ssa
While this guy may have gotten a raw deal, there is legal recourse available in cases like this, the video that went viral only shows this him being forcefully dragged off the plane by security, but NOT the events leading up to this situation. A lot like the Michael Brown and other apparent cases of excessive force and police brutality.

Let's see. Michael Brown robbed a store, assaulted a cop and tried to steal his gun, and then charged him, and was a huge dude. This passenger was reacting to United violating the law regarding removing a passenger already boarded and in his seat, did not offer any kind of physical resistance, and probably didn't weigh more than 130 pounds.

Yeah, I can see the similarities. /sarcasm

9 posted on 04/13/2017 9:44:38 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Needs to never happen again. Period.

Require the airlines to keep raising the offer until someone takes it, if that’s ten grand, then they shouldn’t have overbooked.

Spare me the “They’re just people doing a job” BS, that’s no excuse.

There is a market based solution to this.

For me- once you’ve taken my money you *ARE* going to fulfill your end of the contract OR I will make your existence as miserable as it deserves to be, which is going to involve whatever combination of lawyers, social media and physical action I think most appropriate.

If you don’t have the seat, don’t sell it, PERIOD. Anything else is fraud.


10 posted on 04/13/2017 9:44:49 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Absolutely correct. And they likely wouldn’t have had to have gone much further than the $800 already offered.

That, OR hire a car to DRIVE their employees (I hear it’s a 4.5 hour drive, for gosh sakes).

Either of those is a HUGE BARGAIN when compared to what they ended up “buying”.


11 posted on 04/13/2017 9:44:53 AM PDT by Zarro (Oh, we don't call them the "MSM" any longer; they are now the "Basket of Detestables")
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The thing they could have done is kept upping the price until someone took the deal.

That seems like the most obvious solution to the problem.

I understand the "thoughts from a Pilot Wife" but all of that is a reflection of our overly-lawyered society. Yes, I'm sure there are 37 pages of fine print behind every airline ticket, and yes, if I were to read and memorize all 37 pages of fine print I could probably avoid these unpleasant situations.

But the only people who want to live in THAT type of society are the lawyers who are paid to write the fine print.

Just pay people to get off the plane. It's simple. It's relatively cheap. It's easy for anyone to understand.

12 posted on 04/13/2017 9:45:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Impala64ssa

So how did he get back on the plane? Wasn’t he in the custody of the 3 aviation security officers?


13 posted on 04/13/2017 9:46:37 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: MeganC
it was a bad situation but a legal one and its the cops who had to pull the guy out, not the airlines...

we are not forced to fly the airlines...its our choice....

14 posted on 04/13/2017 9:46:40 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Impala64ssa

No, sorry lady, your husband can get a new career.


15 posted on 04/13/2017 9:46:42 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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The thing they could have done is kept upping the price until someone took the deal.

That's what engineering companies would do if they knew they wouldn't be able to just bring lots of engineers in from foreign countries to undercut the wages of American engineers.

But they have another way to handle the problem at lower cost, and they take it.

Same here. Why should they keep upping the price when they can just call in law enforcement? Cheaper. In the short run, anyway, which is all anyone at Dunder-Mifflin Airlines can focus on.

16 posted on 04/13/2017 9:47:36 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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United has been a horrible, awful airline for a long time. I’m just very glad that I have been airline free since 2012. I hope it is forever. Much of the problem is government, but not all. United tries very hard to be a bad airline.


17 posted on 04/13/2017 9:48:35 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Impala64ssa

And then there’s the “Contract of Carriaige” the airlines use. Most are the size of small novels.

My immediate question is how do you get informed consent on a 35-40,000 word contract. . . .


18 posted on 04/13/2017 9:49:12 AM PDT by Salgak (You're in Strange Hands with Tom Stranger. . . .)
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To: Red Badger

They were Chicago airport security agents, not the feds.

According to the attorney at the news conference, Dao received a severe concussion, a broken nose that will require reconstructive surgery for sinus damage, and he lost two front teeth. Sounds like the thugs meant business when he resisted getting off. I don’t think receiving a beating when being bumped is in the contract of carriage fine print.


19 posted on 04/13/2017 9:49:19 AM PDT by CedarDave (Proud member of Hillary's Deplorables class of 2016.)
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To: Impala64ssa
Yes, and the Jews in 1939 didn't the read the fine print either.

This airline shill is trying to polish an unconstitutional turd and make us think its a diamond. Assaulting folks because they have the temerity to insist on a company honoring a contract is flat wrong.

20 posted on 04/13/2017 9:51:14 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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