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BREAKING - EXCLUSIVE - EX CIA ROBERT STEELE INTERVIEW #PIZZGATE & TRUMP'S PATH TO GREATNESS & MORE
YT ^ | 2/19/2017 | Victurus Libertas VL

Posted on 02/22/2017 2:46:51 PM PST by johnk

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To: Strac6

“What if someone got on the net and told everyone that you were a widely suspected Child Molester? Can you prove you are not?”

I don’t have to prove anything. But if someone CLAIMED they heard me saying something suspicious or saw artwork that looked like child abuse, it would justify being questioned by law enforcement.

“Do you not realize that the Internet gives fools, psychotics and other loonies access they never had before?”

Do you read the post to which you are replying? I answered this fully and succinctly in it.

“How does support for abortion makes the Podestas child molesters?”

You sound like an apologist for abortionists now. Liberals like the Podestas do not just “support” abortion. It is the most important sacrament of the liberal religion. Liberals also demand that everyone else pay for it with our tax dollars. They also make big money from killing babies and selling their body parts. Planned Parenthood donates liberally to liberals.

When people become comfortable with such horrific things and openly declare so, there is no limit to what evil they are capable of.

“Where did the Podestas say they were turned on by child abuse?”

Collecting and displaying artwork of abused little girls pretty much lets everyone know their proclivities.

Breitbart was murdered for threatening to expose these people. Do you consider him one of your “fools, psychotics and other loonies”?

Here’s a tweet from him:

“How prog-guru John Podesta isn’t household name as world class underage sex slave op cover-upperer defending unspeakable dregs escapes me.”

“There is not one iota of PROOF that any of this is true.”

There’s tons of proof. And the child-raping, child-murdering people you seem so adamant to defend are going to go down for it.

You don’t sound rational or reasonable. I can certainly understand a conservative advocating caution with unfounded accusations that might reflect poorly on the judgment of those making the accusations. But you are going much further. You are not merely saying that you have not seen sufficient evidence to convince you there is a real pedophile ring being run by elite liberals, including fake conservative Republicans. You seem offended that someone would question men of such integrity as the Podestas. That’s not gonna fly around this forum.

Do you think all of the pedophile arrests that have been made since Trump took office were also “BS” and another “witch hunt”? Or is it just the Podestas you are convinced are above reproach?


61 posted on 02/23/2017 7:17:46 PM PST by unlearner (So much winning !!!)
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To: Strac6
We had 24x7 coverage and trials over deflated footballs! Don't we at least owe it to the possible victims to at very least entertain that there might be something to this?

Why are you so convinced that this is BS?

62 posted on 02/23/2017 7:20:28 PM PST by defconw (The long national nightmare is over! Praise God! Make America Great Again!)
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To: GregNH

If there is any chance that any of this is true, we have a moral obligation to keep pushing it! IMHO.


63 posted on 02/23/2017 7:21:53 PM PST by defconw (The long national nightmare is over! Praise God! Make America Great Again!)
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To: unlearner

You do know that the pizzagate denier is a D.C. lawyer who defends podesta each and every time a thread like this pops up.


64 posted on 02/23/2017 7:31:32 PM PST by seeker41 (Trump Save America)
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To: defconw

Where is one element of PROOF?

Read all the BS elements, one by one.

“It was child abuse because they used triangles and hearts.” We already covered that. Pervs may use such symbols, but the 1077 most frequent used hearts and triangles previously linked had no link to child abuse! For example, Google. if you ever used Google Search, does that make you a child sexual abuser?

“Some maybe pervy guy was within walking distance of PPP” Wow, that’s proof of?????

“The Podestas kidnapped a 3 year old in Portugal,” “There were hidden torture chambers in the basement” “A grandmother was not taking her grandkids to a friend’s pool, she was selling them into sexual slavery.” “Pizza really means child sex abuse.” “Pepironi really means semen” The Podestas had stupid art, send them to jail for it.”

By the way. If we were to check your home address with the local PD where you live, if you are in any city or burbs, we would find a child sex abuse arrest within 15 minutes walking distance of your home. (one mile) If you think I’m kidding, call your local cops. It will astound you.

Does that make YOU guilty? (Of course not) But why, since you cannot prove your innocence, don’t we start a huge set of internet rumors about you? (I ask fallaciously.)

In reality, this is nothing new. About 30 years ago, dozens of Americans went to jail on totally unsubstantiated pre-school sex abuse charges. It made the Salem Witchcraft Trials look like a walk in the park.

We represented one set of people falsely accused in a civil trial after a judge threw out their conviction.

At the civil trial we produced notes and videotape from the LEOs and “Child Abuse Experts” where they repeatedly admitted faking evidence, threatening children if they would not testify against the teachers, and more and more and more. In one case, the “therapists” worked up a whole year of “abuse proof” on a teacher, complete with details of abuse on specific, never held before or again field trips, during the birth of kittens, and many other things that were date specific. The only problem was that they were off by a year, as the teacher was wintering over in Antarctica in the Navy when all this supposedly happened.

At one point, my final question in the civil trial to one detective, who had made her creds in this case was, “So, Offffffficerrrr, of the 83 pieces of information you helped present to falsely convict my clients, how many do you now know were completely falsified, let me put it more succinctly, how many were complete lies invented by the so-called therapists, and perhaps “overzealous” police officers.
Answer: A lot

Question: Please be specific, of the 83 lies used to convict my clients, how many were completely false, complete lies.

Answer: I’m not sure

Question: Let me make it simple. There were 83 accusations made against my clients. Of the total of 83, were ANY the truth?

Answer: No sir.

Question: So the 83 accusations, they were all, each one of them were all....

Answer: (interrupting) completely false.

Question: Detective; so the total number of assumptions made against my clients, at any time anywhere, the total number of accusations made against my clients that were true were.

Answer (none given)

Question, Detective, let me make the math easy for you. Of all the accusations of sexual abuse against my client, in fact against all the defendants in this case, of any criminal activity, in fact of even anything “anti-social”, the total number that were true, in any was, how many. How many had even the slightest basis in truth.”

Answer: None, Zero.

Question: Offffficerrr, did you ever, with your years of experienc, ever realize that the accusations were false BEFORE, let me repeat that, BEFORE you helped them be introduced into evidence?.

Answer; Sir, on advice of Counsel, I must invoke my protections under the 5th Amendment to the US Constitution and respectfully decline to answer that question

On the stand, the head of the “therapists” admitted she knew the evidence submitted at the CRIMINAL trials was BS, but her firm was getting $28,000 per month to provide “therapy” to the “damaged” kids.

Some people are repeating all this kind of BS again.

Let’s stop this PPP BS and concentrate on what is really wrong with America.


65 posted on 02/23/2017 8:10:43 PM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: unlearner

So now the Podestas are child raping murderers....

I’m sorry for you, but you want to believe this a little too much, in fact, way too much, to be worthy of serious discussion.

Quite frankly, I think I know why, in the absence of any proof, you are fixated on this, but decorum prevents me from going any further into that.


66 posted on 02/23/2017 8:15:43 PM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6

“So now the Podestas are child raping murderers.”

I think there is enough evidence to justify authorities interviewing and investigating them. I think there is enough to justify judges authorizing wiretaps, subpoenaing evidence, and giving investigators search warrants.

Lolita Island needs to be investigated. These people and their associates need to be investigated, and their activities tracked and followed.

Would you be shocked if evidence is uncovered proving that the Podestas are, in fact, child-raping murderers? Would that really surprise you?

Do you think you can distinguish serial killers and child abusers by how they look? How they speak? How they dress and carry themselves?

Do you think such people do not even exist and that all such allegations are merely fairy tales and witch hunts?

Do you think the talk of worldwide problems of child sex trafficking and child sex tourism are also “BS”? Or just that the Podestas may be connected to some of it?

You seem fixated on defending the Podestas simply because there exist many spurious and questionable allegations. Is that a reason to ignore the real evidence?

You’re telling me and everyone on this forum that the Podestas may support abortion, including late term. They may support partial-birth abortion. They may support Planned Parenthood selling baby body parts, including entire “intact” cadavers. They may love art that depicts little girls with their red, blistered butts exposed. They may collect art with sculptures in Jeffrey Dahmer murder-victim poses. They may enjoy “spirit cooking” and comedy that treats pedophilia as a funny subject matter. But none of these things mean these are bad people?

I’m supposed to agree with you on that? Would you be perfectly comfortable letting these brothers babysit your small children?

Please correct me if I’m misunderstanding your position.


67 posted on 02/24/2017 12:18:02 AM PST by unlearner (So much winning !!!)
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To: unlearner

Just to help you possibly clear your thinking regarding this.

What legally sustainable evidence do you have tying the Podestas to child abuse, or such to the PPP?

Show us your best piece of evidence the Podestas abused and child?

There is none, other than your own internet driven paranoia

Yes, there is Child Abuse in DC. PROVE Podesta had any thing to do with it..... or wallow in your own shame.


68 posted on 02/24/2017 12:36:50 AM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6

As a lawyer you ought to be well aware that some behavior that is not enough to convict someone of a crime, justifies a search warrant. And evidence that does not justify a search warrant may justify surveillance. And evidence that does not justify surveillance may justify an interview by investigators.

If the Podestas are guilty of crimes against children such as kidnapping, rape, trafficking / pimping, torture, and murder, how do you think these things might become exposed?

Suspicious behavior justifies looking into their activities and associations further.

I’m not aware of evidence that could be admitted into court to convict these guys. If the evidence I’ve seen were presented in court, and I was on the jury, I don’t think I could in good conscience convict these guys of what they’ve been accused of.

But there is enough to justify looking into it by investigators.

Honestly, just their art collection alone ought to cause any sane voter to exclude them from ANY consideration as a potential representative.

If someone wears a marijuana symbol on his clothing, it may be free speech. But I can guarantee you he is a drug user. There is a slight possibility that he is an undercover cop. But even then, he is still a drug user, even if that is just the “necessary evil” he has to do to get his job done.

Normal people do not hang pictures of little girls with exposed, blistered bottoms on their wall. Normal people do not find “spirit cooking” to be a form of high art and culture. Normal people do not find comedy about pedophilia to be entertaining and laugh-worthy. Normal people do not form intimate friendships and spend lots of personal time traveling the world with known pedophiles.

These things may not be enough to convict someone in a court of law, but they sure are enough to formulate a reasonable opinion. And in my opinion, the Podestas are pedophiles. And not just child molesting pedophiles. They are the kind that get pleasure from inflicting pain. And, so far, they’ve operated in circles and conducted themselves in such a way, that they have never been held accountable for crimes they’ve done in secret.

Sure, I could be wrong. And no, I would not convict them on the evidence that has been put forward so far (i.e. what I’ve seen). And I’m not for tying them to a rock to see if they float (like witches supposedly do). But I’m entitled to my opinion, which is formed based on evidence. And I would not be surprised to eventually see these guys being caught with evidence that CAN be used in a court of law.

“Yes, there is Child Abuse in DC. PROVE Podesta had any thing to do with it..... or wallow in your own shame.”

Well, I’m glad you realize there is a problem. I admit I do not have proof that would constitute evidence admissible in a court of law. But, keep in mind, a person could be a member of NAMBLA and still fit into this category. I think that what is publicly known about the Podestas is on that level. They may not have come right out and admitted to being pedophiles, rapists, kidnappers, or murderers, but the type of people they are is evident.

No one here is advocating a lynch mob (yet), but I’m surprised to see you apparently defending the character of these brothers. Where is YOUR evidence of their good character? If you have none, why are you so zealously defending them?


69 posted on 02/24/2017 1:17:04 AM PST by unlearner (So much winning !!!)
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To: unlearner

Do you have any sustainable probable cause any child abuse occurred at ppp

No.

Do you have any legally sustainable PC the Podestas were ivvolved in CA (child sexual abuse) ?

No

Do you have any sustainable PC that Pizza means,CSA, as opposed to food in any link to the Podestas?

No.

I could go on and on, but there is no sustainable PC, let alone proof of any of this regarding any of the named parties.

But, since there is demonstrable evidence os CSA in your home town, and you believe Internet rumors are enough to start full LEO investigations, I’m sure you have no problem in someone calling your local LEOS and reporting that you seem to have a significant interest in CSA, a number of card pass your home slowly at night, at the shopping mall, you shop at stores near a store that sells children’s clothes, and on two occasions last month, you drove past a children’s elementary school when you could easily have taken another route.

You would have no problem with the internet reporting you were being investigated for CSA because of that, would you?


70 posted on 02/24/2017 12:24:11 PM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6

Your outlandish straw men prove you lack credibility on the topic. You have some strange obsession with defending wicked people who are openly wicked. Just because some fools think someone driving by an elementary school constitutes evidence of these people being pedophiles does NOT preclude recognizing that normal, healthy people do not hang pictures of little girls with exposed, blistered buttocks to decorate their homes.

You want to run away from addressing that because you know how damaging it is to your vehement denial that the Podestas are anything but the most upstanding and godly pillars of our community. So you have to invent these straw men that no one on this forum have suggested, least of all me.

If someone was in a local grocery store wearing a t-shirt that said “support NAMBLA, legalize man-boy love” while walking with and holding the hand of a little boy, I would call the cops.

Whether this is protected speech is debatable — probably obscene by the Miller test. The fact this person is a threat to children is obvious to any rational person.

I’m curious if you feel the same way about Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner, and Jeffrey Epstein as you do about the Podesta brothers.

These people are entitled to their legal representation within the justice system. And little children are entitled not to be kidnapped, raped, and tortured.


71 posted on 02/24/2017 9:20:03 PM PST by unlearner (So much winning !!!)
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To: unlearner

Three points in your twisted thinking;

1; This rumor is overwhelmingly linked to activity inside your brain only and is of some little interest outside your brain because of the falsely linked claim to the Podestas

2; Your borderline psychotic obsession to punish the Podestas for a crime they certainly had nothing to do with, even if there is that less that 5% chance THAT crime ever happened has metastasized in your thought process to a point has enveloped your entire thinking.

3” The 2 people to blame least,are yourself and the man who tried but failed to seduce you into your homosexual experience.... or the man who actually succeeded if he did seduce you into your first homosexual activity. He or they was probably fighting those same demons you are seeing in some of your dreams... and his, being untreated are probably much worse than yours.

The facts are:
1: There is child abuse in DC
2: You hate the Podestas,
3: The Podesta own some art you do not like
4: One day he a handkerchief in his pocket,
5: and once Podesta he said liked pepperoni on his pizza..

That proves nothing, but an educated guess they are of Italian heritage with such a name.

The internet rumors that have been proven wrong are

1: There were no underground sexual torture chambers for kids at PPP

2: The very bad Phptpshop fake wanted posters picturing the Feds and Scotland Yard suspecting them in the death of a 3 year old girl in Portugal are complete and foolish fakes

3: The supposed FBI claim that hearts and triangles are always signs of pedophiliac activity come from a TV crime show not directly from the FBI and in the 8738 most popular of such symbols had no link to childhood sex as dramatized on TV.

4: The picture of the supposedly sexual deviant grandmother Ubering her 4 grandchildren into sexual slavers is really a picture of her taking them to a pool party in Maryland, as attested to buy the more than 120 people there including 2 of the children’s other relatives, 3 of the children’s pediatricians, 1 of their pre-school teachers, and the assistant chief of the State Police. Every attendee who was there verified there was no problems as did the security cameras.

6: My wife’s family still has a picture of my beautiful wife, now 64, when she was seven running down a Swiss stream, with 2/3 of her right bum hanging out. It is dear. It hangs in an annual parade of pictures of her starting at age one, proudly hanging in line on the wall, that ends on our wedding day.[each all clothed]

5: All the supposed documents supporting these claims, supposedly coming from “Official sources” [never naimed] were printed on the same computer, using the same microscopic toner used by just one company producing refilled computer toner units and the paper was bought at the same time from a rejects discount table at the same paper wholesaler, One side on all the sheets is slightly shorter than the other side on all the sizes of every sheet..

Combined with the all other hypothesis attempting to promote the Podestas guilty, or attempting to prove there were hidden sex abuse chambers in the PPP, that Podestas had secret Hillary campaign meetings there where donors got to fondle children, and Hillary, Chelsea and Bill all participate, with Bill only wanting to try to nurse off a busty black woman while dressed only in matronly pajamas.

The worse part is that you now believe this, and need to believe this, to the point it is self sustaining and even worse, self reinforcing within you.

I had two consultants my firm used regularly who specialize in this type thing look at your postings. The retired Navy 0-6 Psychiatrist said what without examining you for at least 2-3 hours and getting a detailed family history from all involved, a definitive cause of your severely maladjusted through process can not be determined to a medical certainty, but even without such a full examination, some written diagnostic tools, a deep inquiry about hidden desires often revealed in deep dream studies, a Penile Plethysmograph when shown pictures of 10x12 glossy prints of various groups of young boys 2-14 in various states of dress and undress and a CBC, the degree of your danger to yourself,the Podestas and homosexuals in general is certainly at a level to indicate a complete Baker Act evaluation as soon as possible.

The retired federal protective officer said that, depending on what a full investigation revealed, you might be placed on the list of people handed out as protection to politicians and other protected parties, especially ones known to be gay, gay friendly, or (especially for those in public office) bars known to be frequented by either known gays or monetarily supportive of gay issues in congress for example.

If a search shows the perp to be a handgun owner with no sporting, hunting, or target shooting club affiliations, inclusion in the FAA / FBI / ICE No-FLy-List might be appropriate.

YOU CAN PREVENT THIS AS SOON AS YOU WANT:

Try to spend your time expending energy in other pursuits. For examples, walk long distances where seeing children or gays is not expected. No association with youth camps, swimming pools, youth athletic coaching, etc

Take some long heterosexual adults-only cruises {8-14 days} and actively try to engage with multiple female sex partners on the ship. These are usually easy to obtain, as the single women on such a cruise are usually quite sexually active. Do NOT under any circumstances, involve yourself with any woman more than 30 months younger than yourself.

Most importantly, see someone professionally. If you are not comfortable getting a recommendation from your family physician, The Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Clinic is in the top three programs in the nation and is ENTIRELY CONDIFENTIAL.

Like any addiction problem, self recognition is the first step to a healthy life, especially in denial, even more so in your case of self denial. Take some time for self-diagnosis rather then denial, and remember, we are all pulling for you.

Please do something, because it can sneak up on you very cuickly to an uncontrollable level and think how that would reflect very badly on FR and it senor members and especially JimRob

Good luck


72 posted on 02/25/2017 1:42:10 AM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6

“rumor is overwhelmingly linked to activity inside your brain only “

There are millions of posts and comments about this. Your assertion that it is otherwise is psychotic.

“Your borderline psychotic obsession”

You are the one obsessively defending the Podestas. I could understand obsessively defending the reputation of conservatives and Free Republic if you reasonably believed that we are accepting nutty conspiracy theories as factual. But you have gone FAR beyond that. You are insisting that the Podestas — the liberal, abortion loving Podesta — are more rock solid pillars of virtue than any conservatives who ever lived including the Founders. That is, judging by your obsession with defending them.

“2 people to blame least,are yourself and the man who tried but failed to seduce you into your homosexual experience.... or the man who actually succeeded if he did seduce you into your first homosexual activity”

Sorry. Fail. Didn’t happen. Stop projecting.

“The internet rumors that have been proven wrong are”

So what. That has zero relevance to whether the Podestas actually committed crimes involving children.

I do not have proof that they have done so, but their own actions are the reason for suspicion.

“The worse part is that you now believe this, and need to believe this, to the point it is self sustaining and even worse, self reinforcing within you.”

No, I am not convinced of any of these rumors or allegations without concrete evidence, but I still have sense to recognize that the Podestas are not good people. And I would not be surprised in the least to learn that an investigation uncovers evidence that they have in fact abused children. I think most of what is circulating on the Internet on this issue is garbage. But I also think there is something real behind all of it also. Some really big scandal. I think it needs to be investigated further. If even a little bit of what is being accused is true, this scandal is even bigger than Planned Parenthood selling baby body parts.

“I had two consultants my firm used regularly who specialize in this type thing look at your postings.”

That. If you are truly being sincere, you are a complete nutcase. Looney. Off your rocker. Never in all my years on Free Republic have I seen something so completely nutty as what you just posted.

You have spent hours obsessively defending the Podestas as moral, upright pillars of the community who are simply misunderstood about their disgusting art and moral positions supporting everything liberal. And now you actually think conservatives on this forum should be “evaluated” for their comments. PLEASE tell me this was a failed attempt at humor.

You actually believe the Podesta’s art is perfectly normal and the idea of investigating them is ridiculous. And, in the same breath, you think those who disagree with you should be evaluated for something criminal? This just has to be a joke. Please tell me so. I’m worried for you, FRiend.

I’m NOT an expert in psychology, but I’m pretty sure this is called projection. Did you quit taking your meds? Are you struggling with early stages of dementia?

“prints of various groups of young boys 2-14 in various states of dress and undress and a CBC, the degree of your danger to yourself,the Podestas and homosexuals in general is certainly at a level to indicate a complete Baker Act evaluation as soon as possible.”

I hope you are intentionally being outrageously facetious. If you really believe and advocate such things, I’m starting to see why you are such a slavish devotee of the Podestas.

The psychiatry profession as a whole has abandoned moral principles in favor of homosexual “marriage” and homosexuals adopting and being foster parents to children. It sounds like you truly believe such people ought to be the arbitrators of such things.

Maybe you think everyone on this forum who disagrees with you ought to have an “evaluation” using guidelines from Mengele and Kinsey.

Do you think these men were upstanding and credible doctors and researchers too? I’m starting to see a pattern here. Please tell me you were being facetious.

“The retired federal protective officer said that, depending on what a full investigation revealed, you might be placed on the list of people handed out as protection to politicians and other protected parties, especially ones known to be gay, gay friendly, or (especially for those in public office) bars known to be frequented by either known gays or monetarily supportive of gay issues in congress for example.”

You belong on the DU, not Free Republic. Do you practice remote viewing also? Tea leaves? Palmistry? Numerology? Astrology? Ouija? What else did these things tell you about me? I’m curious.

“If a search shows the perp to be a handgun owner with no sporting, hunting, or target shooting club affiliations, inclusion in the FAA / FBI / ICE No-FLy-List might be appropriate.”

So you believe citizens should have a psychological evaluation to be able to own or use guns?

Your thin disguise as a conservative on a conservative forum is cracking.

“Most importantly, see someone professionally. If you are not comfortable getting a recommendation from your family physician, The Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Clinic is in the top three programs in the nation and is ENTIRELY CONDIFENTIAL.”

I’m gonna just assume the rest of your ridiculous post is an old attorney blowing off steam and trying to be funny. In the right context you might be. But sometimes humor reveals hidden emotions and motives.

So, if there is any seriousness to your very anti-conservative, pro-fascists comments, I will share one little personal thing. I don’t share much personally on public forums such as this. I prefer to keep my privacy.

But I have had to engage in a legal battle with an attorney such as yourself before. He thought making similar allegations (to the ones you are making) and trying to make an embarrassing public record of them would intimidate me to give up my rights and my fight for justice. Perhaps this a trick that lawyers of a certain (lack of) moral character feel comfortable using. He failed.

He also put a family member of mine in danger multiple times.

Turns out, he was working for a mafia crime family that threatened certain people who were tempted to turn state’s evidence. They threatened that they would murder them and prostitute their children. The FBI has wire tapped conversations with him and his brother and other made members of this criminal organization. (The brothers were apparently not made members.) He is now disbarred and in federal prison. The head of this crime family recently died in federal prison.

The battle I had with this attorney took place over a couple of years. There is a nearly exact overlap between this and his legal battle with the Feds. (He was indicted by the FBI about a month after he sued me. And he was convicted about four months after I finally won against him in the second court episode. It took almost exactly a year for him to go to prison.) He is slated to spend the next couple of decades in prison. He lost EVERYTHING, including millions in ill-gotten gain. He will most likely be a very old man when he gets out or very possibly die in prison.

I can prove every one of these things with easily accessible public records. Most of it was released to the press by the FBI. All of it came out.

Now, none of these things had anything to do with my case in particular. And him being caught did not have anything to do with anything I did (unless you count lots of prayer). But the kind of person he was came out eventually.

But you’ve never seen someone so confident in court. He made both of my attorneys very nervous. And one of mine was a retired judge. And he still is confident he is going to get his conviction thrown out. Very confident guy.

You might be a well-connected attorney who thinks he is above the law or is the law. Maybe you’ve made a career representing people like the Podestas. Maybe you are skilled at bullying people with legal harassment. Maybe you’ve used your legal skills the way Hillary did in a child abuse case and turned the tables on the victims. Maybe you’ve tried to put abuse victims on trial, and your guilt-ridden conscience compels you to defend creeps like the Podestas in order to justify your prior actions.

Or, maybe you are a sincere, conservative, retired attorney who has seen people falsely accused, and you are particularly defensive about spurious allegations of child abuse. Maybe this is your “trigger” that sets you off, and you just can’t help yourself. I can only speculate.

Either way, whether the Podestas committed crimes against children, I despise them. I would not convict them or anyone else on spurious allegations, but what I do know about these men makes my skin crawl.

Regardless, the Podestas are not bigger than God. Neither are you. Or me.

Eventually all of us will have to answer to Him. If you have a personal axe to grind, may God judge between us.


73 posted on 02/25/2017 2:19:59 PM PST by unlearner (So much winning !!!)
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To: johnk

74 posted on 02/25/2017 2:24:48 PM PST by dead
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To: unlearner
Wow. I have never defended the Podestas, here or in any forum, legal or otherwise, nor would I do so. I think they are moral and political reprobates, but your need to connect them with a child abuse ring, when you admit you have absolutely no proof, places you in the same moral and absence of logical thought category. Your tortured mind replies are not worth reading, nor will they be. The one thing that is interesting about you is your "name" "Unlearner" It assumes you, at some time did learn something. I was wondering what it was you "unlearned", of in fact, ever did learn..... No on second thought, don't try to explain it. It would not be read. I'll be too busy trimming my toenails to allot the time to reading any of your.... whatever they are. Good day, Sir Old Russian Proverb: Существует класс, определенная группа людей, которые настолько больны в виду, что никакая сумма помощи не будет когда-либо убедить их, они введены в заблуждение, так что никакой помощи, даже от великих врачей никогда не поможет.
75 posted on 02/25/2017 3:00:07 PM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6

“Your tortured mind replies are not worth reading, nor will they be.”

My bad. For assuming you had anything to contribute to the conversation.

But MY WORDS will be read. You have a number of detractors on this forum. Several have messaged me as much.

So I could not care less if you get your panties in a wad and huff away.

My words are for people who actually care to engage in logical discourse. They will see my well-written replies and recognize the fallacies of your arguments.

If you choose to remain in your ignorance, you are entitled to do so.

You commented on my screen name, unlearner. My about page on FR explains:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~unlearner/

“unlearner” was a self-ascribed nickname by one Mr. Smith in An Unfinished Communication by Charles H. Hinton.

An excerpt is posted there. I found the message contained in it profound many, many years ago and decided it was a fitting screen name for someone who seeks to help educate people by first helping them unlearn things that are in error.

For the benefit of those who DO wish to read. Because some people will choose NOT to unlearn their errors. I can’t help such people. No one is so blind as he who will not see.

It is quite ironic that your Russian screed says essentially the same thing:

“There is a class, a certain group of people who are so sick in mind that no amount of aid will ever convince them they are misled, so no help, even from the great doctors ever will.”

Maybe you should take a dose of your own medicine.


76 posted on 02/25/2017 3:21:58 PM PST by unlearner (So much winning !!!)
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To: unlearner

One indicator to me that pizzagate is true and these people are guilty is NO ONE has filed a defamation lawsuit. Why not? Surely if the Podestas and Mr. Ping Pong are innocent, a defamation lawsuit would be a slam dunk. It’s not like there are just individuals talking about this who would be hard to round up and sue. No, there are specific people and websites making specific allegations of child pedophilia, torture, abuse and killing. Surely the Podestas that are big time lobbyists and Clinton executive have their ‘reputation’ to uphold. This can’t be good for Mr. Ping Pong’s business either. There are specific extreme allegations being made and there are specific people that could be sued. Wouldn’t that be the quickest way to shut these allegations down? Instead of a lawsuit we are hearing nothing but mafia type attacks on people making the allegations who are calling for serious investigations. Look at Ben Swann. What happened to him for just a 5 minute report calling for an investigation?

How about the video of Majestic Ape at the ping pong pizza palace? The ‘entertainment’. Based on what you hear, a woman gave birth and the newborn was euthanized as some kind of sick entertainment/satanic ritual. I want to know that it was all fake. Even if it is fake it’s one of the SICKEST things I’ve heard in my life. I want a team of forensic investigators to go in there and swab that place from top to bottom. Surely, Mr. Ping Pong being all innocent and everything won’t have a problem with that in order to clear his ‘good name’.


77 posted on 02/26/2017 1:22:37 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: GregNH

Long dead fake news issue.


78 posted on 07/19/2017 2:47:33 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: GregNH

Nul past


79 posted on 08/03/2017 4:06:03 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: GregNH

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80 posted on 08/15/2017 2:39:00 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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