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LA Times: Concealed carry reciprocity Ďabsurd and dangerousí
guns.com ^ | Dec. 6, 2016 | Brian Seay

Posted on 12/06/2016 4:08:00 PM PST by PROCON


The Los Angeles Times editorial board says the Donald Trump backed, NRA push for nationwide concealed carry reciprocity is bad for public safety, calling it “absurd and dangerous” in a piece published Saturday.

Lawmakers have four bills drafted that would make concealed carry reciprocity a federal law allowing gun owners licensed to carry in one state, to be able to carry in any other state. The Times calls it an effort to “dismantle state and local gun-control laws,” driving nationwide concealed carry laws “to the lowest common denominator” by allowing people to get carry permits in states with less stringent training requirements, and then lawfully carrying in any other state.

“They could become law,” writes the editorial board. “That would be a disaster for public safety and a cynical usurpation of the long-standing right of states to determine their own gun laws.”

Supporters of reciprocity say such a measure is the ultimate embodiment of Americans’ Second Amendment right.

“The individual right to carry a firearm in defense of our lives and our families does not and should not end at any state line,” said NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre in a video after the Nov. 8 election.

“A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state,” reads an outline of Trump’s Second Amendment platform.

But the Times refuted that point, saying, “all states follow similar standards for issuing driver’s licenses, and basic vehicle and traffic laws are largely standardized. That’s not so for gun laws, which vary widely by state, not to mention that county and city governments are allowed to enact their own restrictions based on local needs and preferences.”

“It would be ironic to see conservatives who long have professed a belief in states’ rights override states’ choices in this area,” said Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the University of California Irvine School of Law, according to the Associated Press.

Chemerinsky says Congress likely doesn’t have the constitutional authority to order states to honor reciprocity, but could encourage compliance by threatening to withhold federal funding.

“Whether a federal reciprocity law could withstand a constitutional challenge will depend on its final wording,” reads the Times editorial. “But we can’t be confident the Supreme Court will continue to defer to the states. Reasonable minds in Congress need to head this off before the NRA and its legislative acolytes make American [sic] even more dangerous by undercutting reasonable gun controls.”


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; reciprocity; statesrights
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LOL, so when did the L.A. Slimes start being concerned with states rights?

Good comments at link, one in particular:

It's going to happen.

The SCOTUS ruling on gay marriage has set the precedent.

1 posted on 12/06/2016 4:08:00 PM PST by PROCON
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2 posted on 12/06/2016 4:08:52 PM PST by PROCON (Onto the Great American Rebirth!)
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Concerned with public safety while supporting sanctuary cities....?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA


3 posted on 12/06/2016 4:09:11 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: PROCON

I’m more concerned about illegals with drivers licenses with no driver training and no insurance.


4 posted on 12/06/2016 4:10:29 PM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: PROCON

Right - who wants gangs to have licenses to carry when they can just steal what they want? Don’t need no stinkin’ licenses.


5 posted on 12/06/2016 4:10:59 PM PST by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: 2banana

If we seized all guns, what would the “innocent” aggrieved do? They might resort to using their cars and cooking knives . . . . Wait . . . Some do rather than use guns. I guess I’m going to have to rethink this. In Israel they use mostly knives but in “largely” gun free Europe they mostly use guns?? What am I to believe? We can’t discredit Islam, it’s the religion of piece.


6 posted on 12/06/2016 4:15:23 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: PROCON

It will become dangerous only for the LA Slimes beloved BLMers and LaRaza street thugs.


7 posted on 12/06/2016 4:16:02 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: Veggie Todd

I’m more concerned about illegals with drivers licenses with no driver training, no insurance and not able to read road signs in English, driving sober or under some influence.


8 posted on 12/06/2016 4:18:00 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: SkyDancer

The Bill of Rights shall not be abridged without constitutional amendment.


9 posted on 12/06/2016 4:18:24 PM PST by HARRY TUTTLE (Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less. R. E. Lee)
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To: Grampa Dave

Touche’.


10 posted on 12/06/2016 4:19:48 PM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: PROCON

The USSC decision on Roe V Wade has been the most deadly Federal Rule ever, and it seems to have crossed all state lines. I guess they don ‘t mind deaths as long as it’s innocents.


11 posted on 12/06/2016 4:23:28 PM PST by Big Giant Head
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LOL, so when did the L.A. Slimes start being concerned with states rights?

No doubt. And it's the same old tired BS the hoplophobes vomited all over the media about the shall issue CCW laws.

12 posted on 12/06/2016 4:30:13 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: PROCON

13 posted on 12/06/2016 4:30:14 PM PST by Boomer
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“all states follow similar standards for issuing driver’s licenses,

Really? All states issue driver licenses to illegal aliens? And Congress did provide nationwide concealed carry for cops during the Bush administration.

14 posted on 12/06/2016 4:30:41 PM PST by Yogafist
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Well it figures THEY’D say that,\.

But it doesn’t matter what they say or think.

It’s GOING to happen. We’ll just “Deem it passed” if necessary, just like O-Hole and his dems did with Obamacare.

Karma is going to be a REAL bitch for these snowflakes.


15 posted on 12/06/2016 4:31:03 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: HARRY TUTTLE

I don’t understand your point. Gangs do not need licenses only law abiding citizens do.


16 posted on 12/06/2016 4:34:10 PM PST by SkyDancer (Ambtion Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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To: PROCON

LA Slime tears are sweet and fitting.


17 posted on 12/06/2016 4:48:33 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (It's Morning in America. Again.)
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To: PROCON

I have to get an FBI background check to get a concealed carry license in TX. I don’t see why I suddenly become more dangerous to anyone when I travel to another state.


18 posted on 12/06/2016 4:48:34 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: PROCON

LaTimes ruined its amazing franchise —basically ruling the print media for a region of twenty million people) ————— by its perennially extreme leftist slant in it’s “news” - the slant is at least as patent on page 1 as it is on the opinion page. ( Also recall this is the paper there STILL
hiding the tape of O’s strong islamonazi remarks at an islamonazi function he participated in. )


19 posted on 12/06/2016 4:49:15 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: NFHale

I’m concerned about how the bills I’ve seen are written. I live in NJ and am afraid I will still be screwed because I can’t get a CCW from my home state. I have several others but NJ is No Issue unless you are part of a select political upper class. Any National CCW has to help people like me, NYC, most of CA, HI and maybe a few others I’m missing to be effective.


20 posted on 12/06/2016 4:50:01 PM PST by alephnull (Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a cult of death.)
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