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Could Pelosi Actually Lose Leadership Vote: "A Lot Of People Are Going To Be Surprised Tomorrow"
Zero Hedge ^ | 11/29/16 | "Tyler Durden"

Posted on 11/29/2016 12:52:42 PM PST by markomalley

Democratic representative Tim Ryan of Ohio is a long shot to unseat Nancy Pelosi in the vote for the minority leadership position to be held tomorrow, but he's convinced that "a lot of people are going to be surprised" by the vote tallies.

“I think a lot of people are going to be surprised tomorrow.”

 

“I think we need a change.  Again, we’re at the smallest number we’ve had in our Democratic caucus since 1929.”

 

"We really got to ask ourselves when we walk out of the room tomorrow, what are we going to tell the American people?  That what happened on Tuesday and what we've not been able to do since 2010 is ok?  We're gonna keep going down the same path.  Or, will we have a new messenger, a new message, a new brand and a new democratic party?"

Ryan has launched a bid to unseat Pelosi based largely on the premise that Rust Belt voters in the Midwest have abandoned the democratic party precisely because of the elitism exhibited the San Francisco liberal.  While Pelosi is known for her ability to raise substantial amounts of cash for the democratic party, $141 million in the past cycle alone according to The Hill, Ryan argues that electing a House leader with a broader appeal is far more important.

Ryan’s challenge hinges largely on the argument that Pelosi, a San Francisco liberal widely despised in conservative circles, simply projects the wrong image for a party hoping to broaden its appeal to the Rust Belt voters who flocked to Trump.

 

“We have got to have the right messenger,” he said. “We have got to have someone who cannot just go on MSNBC, but go on Fox and Fox Business and CNBC and go into union halls and fish fries and churches all over the country and start a brush fire about what a new Democratic Party looks like.”

 

Leader Pelosi is an incredibly strong fundraiser, she’s an incredibly dynamic leader, she gets out there and gets the caucus to do things together that most other leaders would have a very hard time doing. But that’s come at an expense,” a former Democratic leadership aide said Monday.

 

Pelosi also has a huge advantage when it comes to fundraising, having hauled in more than $141 million for the party this cycle alone, according to her office. Ryan, by contrast, raised less than $1 million — far less than the average member, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Of course, some democrats apparently learned absolutely nothing from the 2016 presidential election and still insist that Pelosi's fundraising efforts are critical to the future of the party.  But as Tim Ryan points out "if money was the answer, Hillary Clinton would be president and
we would be in charge of the House of Representatives right now.”

“The most important messenger in American politics is money, and the ability to get on the air, get on social media, get on media that are relevant to voters is really expensive, and she has done a phenomenal job at giving us that opportunity,” the former lawmaker said Monday. “I don’t think there’s anyone who can come close to matching what she has done.”

 

Ryan has rejected that argument, saying the focus on campaign cash is misguided.

Meanwhile, Ryan has also drawn support from a host of young House democrats who have been prevented from rising up the leadership ranks by a stagnant group of Pelosi loyalists.

The elections have also heightened long-standing aggravations among newer members that the long reign of Pelosi and her top deputies — all of whom are in their mid-70s — has prevented other members from rising through the leadership ranks.

 

“There’s a generation of Democratic leaders who have been stymied or held down or even cut off at the knees to keep her and [Maryland Rep. Steny] Hoyer and others in power,” the former aide added.

 

“So you have a number of members who look at the agendas and question why, when the country is worried about the economy and jobs, the Democrats are out talking about women power and some of the core liberal issues that aren’t going to play well in the places that Democrats have to win if they’re going to take back the majority.”

Certainly, if the democrats learned anything from the 2016 presidential election they would understand that it represented a rebellion of the American people against establishment political figures like Nancy Pelosi.  That said, somehow we suspect the message hasn't quite sunk in yet.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 114th; pelosi; timryan; trumptransition
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1 posted on 11/29/2016 12:52:42 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

It’s not your people, it’s your POLICIES...............


2 posted on 11/29/2016 12:54:37 PM PST by Red Badger
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To: markomalley

no............. we need Pelosi there!

she is our greatest weapon!

she single handedly turned the democratic party into a California only party !


3 posted on 11/29/2016 12:55:49 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: markomalley
...what are we going to tell the American people?

Try the truth for a change. We HATE and DESPISE you "little people" between the coasts. We HATE business. We LOVE big government. We want you to owe the federal government EVERYTHING. We ADORE Fidel Castro and his ilk.

4 posted on 11/29/2016 12:57:46 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: markomalley
Too bad Osama bin Laden is dead he would most accurately reflect the sentiments of the current democrat party.
5 posted on 11/29/2016 12:58:35 PM PST by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: markomalley

No way she loses.


6 posted on 11/29/2016 1:00:35 PM PST by ColdOne ((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~WE DID IT DEPLORABLES!EraseThe0bagambiLegacy!)
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To: markomalley

By ALL means, keep the aged hag Pelosi and the aged hack Steny Hoyer!


7 posted on 11/29/2016 1:01:33 PM PST by onyx (CELEBRATE PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP'S VICTORY DONATE MONTHLY or JOIN CLUB 300!)
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To: markomalley

Nancy is 76 years old. Isn’t time that Satan called her home?


8 posted on 11/29/2016 1:02:13 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: markomalley

I wonder if this might actually happen. When Pelosi issued a statement critical of Castro I thought maybe she’s pandering because the vote is closer than she’s comfortable with.


9 posted on 11/29/2016 1:03:06 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: markomalley

I demand a recount. In advance. No matter who wins. Why? BFYTW


10 posted on 11/29/2016 1:03:33 PM PST by thorvaldr
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To: markomalley

I’ll enjoy another of those pictures of Nancy sporting that Heaven’s-Gate-Cult eye-bulging grimace of hers.


11 posted on 11/29/2016 1:05:01 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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“I think a lot of people are going to be surprised tomorrow.”

Only if by "a lot of people," Rep. Ryan means himself and his immediate family. Otherwise, he's delusional. Pelosi OWNS a majority of the Dem caucus... literally OWNS them. Bought and paid for. If you're the average Dem rep and Nancy Pelosi gives you tens of thousands of dollars every cycle for your campaign and Tim Ryan doesn't give you diddly squat, who are you gonna vote for?
12 posted on 11/29/2016 1:05:59 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: ColdOne

“No way she loses.”

I don’t think the democrat party has “hit bottom” yet

That doesn’t mean they aren’t in serious trouble; merely they are in serious denial about it.


13 posted on 11/29/2016 1:07:37 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You are making an excellent point!

Yes, we really need Pelosi, I mean, after all, she’s hot!

(note: “hot” is not my idea, I copied it from some brain dead folks at DU - just thought I’d throw that in for good measure)


14 posted on 11/29/2016 1:07:46 PM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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To: markomalley

Losing the electoral but winning the popular vote puts the dems in a worst situation than simply losing both. It is like they have a stock portfolio that is taken over by a few very risky Enrons


15 posted on 11/29/2016 1:14:10 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: Red Badger

Its a secret ballot so they can manipulate the vote anyway they want.


16 posted on 11/29/2016 1:16:09 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

If Tim Ryan were to win, it would make the MSM’s job and bit harder by having to differentiate between TIM and PAUL Ryan in their reporting................................


17 posted on 11/29/2016 1:24:41 PM PST by Red Badger
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To: markomalley

Nancy is a goddess—get on your knees and beg for forgiveness, Tim!


18 posted on 11/29/2016 1:25:37 PM PST by cgbg (Pedophiles--the siren is wailing--incoming!)
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To: Pontiac

She will probably be kept because she can con donors like no one else can-that bitch is a human ATM... She isn’t old, either-everyone her age I know has a job or runs a small ranch or other business-I certainly don’t intend to stop working at that age-it is not such a big deal if you are used to working and not morbidly obese, etc...


19 posted on 11/29/2016 1:28:05 PM PST by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to drive a hard line"...)
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To: markomalley

Sure as heck hopes she goes. Then we can all sing ‘ding, dong the witch is dead’


20 posted on 11/29/2016 1:29:49 PM PST by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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