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Vandalism of Bernini's Elephant - Portent of ISIS Destroying All Vatican Art Treasures
Freep | 11/15/2016 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 11/15/2016 12:11:30 PM PST by CharlesOConnell

Tusk vandalized on the Roman statue Bernini's Elephant and Obelisk. Probably not ISIS, this time.

A son of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Catholic convert Msgr. Robert Hugh Benson, wrote in 1907 a seminal science fiction, the Lord of the World ($1 on Kindle), in which the anti-christ's forces bomb Rome into oblivion.

ISIS has other plans. The Caliphate plans to make the Vatican into a Mosque. They are well on schedule to make good on this claim. There is still time to distribute 2,000 years of history to some location safe from ISIS, probably Moscow.



TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: isis; vatican

1 posted on 11/15/2016 12:11:30 PM PST by CharlesOConnell
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2 posted on 11/15/2016 12:17:36 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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The Vatican is crawling with moslems these days...


3 posted on 11/15/2016 12:18:44 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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I really can’t get worked up about someone vandalizing a pagan phallic monument to the sun god. That crap shouldn’t be near a Christian church in the first place.


4 posted on 11/15/2016 1:10:16 PM PST by Boogieman
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It’s troglodytes like you who put the mental in fundamentalist.


5 posted on 11/15/2016 3:15:11 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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Oh sure, remembering the 10 commandments makes one a “troglodyte”. Obelisks are literally false idols, there is no way to interpret your way around it. This isn’t even a secular replica like the Washington monument, it’s an original Egyptian obelisk inscribed and dedicated to a false god.


6 posted on 11/16/2016 6:07:56 AM PST by Boogieman
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No one worships it. It is displayed as an object in a museum.

You have rejoiced in an act of vandalism.

You have taken the Taliban/ISIS position on culture: “Smash it! It is un-Islamic!”

FundaMENTALism.


7 posted on 11/16/2016 6:12:34 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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“No one worships it.”

It’s still a literal false idol. If nobody drives a car anymore, does it cease to be a car?

“It is displayed as an object in a museum.”

No, it’s incorporated into a monument in front of a church.

“You have rejoiced in an act of vandalism.”

False. I simply said I couldn’t get worked up over it. What, do you think the Hebrews were right to get upset when Moses smashed their golden calf?

“You have taken the Taliban/ISIS position on culture: “Smash it! It is un-Islamic!””

Again, false, you are just making stuff up. Bearing false witness is another one of those pesky 10 commandments, remember?

“FundaMENTALism.”

How charitable and meek of you.


8 posted on 11/16/2016 6:33:32 AM PST by Boogieman
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The whole Vatican is a museum. Show me where the definition of “museum” includes “necessarily indoors.”

When a state or civilization or religion is vanquished, the victors bring home trophies. The presence of “idols” in the Vatican betokens the victory of Christ over false religions.

As I said, troglodyte.


9 posted on 11/16/2016 8:06:53 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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“The whole Vatican is a museum.”

No, you just made that up. There are many museums in Vatican City, of course, but Vatican City is a city, not a museum.

“When a state or civilization or religion is vanquished, the victors bring home trophies. The presence of “idols” in the Vatican betokens the victory of Christ over false religions.”

Riiiiight. That’s why God told Moses to keep that golden calf and set it up in front of the tabernacle. Oh wait, He didn’t, He commanded him to smash it.


10 posted on 11/16/2016 8:27:21 AM PST by Boogieman
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We are not the ancient Hebrews. The vast majority of the Mosaic Law is abrogated. In fact, all of it except the Natural Law expressed primarily in the Ten Commandments.

Christians are not obligated to get circumcised. We eat pork and shellfish. We can make garments out of different kinds of fabric. We are not forbidden to make or have images.

Ever heard of Saint Paul?


11 posted on 11/16/2016 12:15:30 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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The Vatican is a city AND a museum.

It’s a breath mint AND a candy mint!


12 posted on 11/16/2016 12:16:51 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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"The Vatican is a city AND a museum."

Nope, it doesn't just magically become a museum because you say it is one in order to try and save your argument.

List of Museums in Rome

On that list is "Vatican Museums" (museums located in The Vatican), but NOT "The Vatican". It's not a museum, it simply contains some museums.

In fact, here is a handy little map of the Vatican, that shows exactly which parts of it are museums (and they aren't the whole thing):


13 posted on 11/16/2016 1:45:06 PM PST by Boogieman
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“We are not the ancient Hebrews. The vast majority of the Mosaic Law is abrogated.”

Not the moral law, of which the 10 commandments are probably the most famous summation.

“In fact, all of it except the Natural Law expressed primarily in the Ten Commandments.”

Natural law is law observable from nature, not the laws given to us by revelation. The 10 commandments are moral laws, not natural laws (you couldn’t, for example, deduce that murder is wrong by observing nature, since nature is rife with slaughter of every imaginable variety).

“Christians are not obligated to get circumcised.”

Correct, not part of the moral law.

“We eat pork and shellfish.”

Correct, not part of the moral law.

“We can make garments out of different kinds of fabric.”

Correct, not part of the moral law.

“We are not forbidden to make or have images.”

Incorrect, forbidden under the moral law.

“Ever heard of Saint Paul?”

You mean the Paul who warned us against idolatry in 1 Corinthians 10:7?


14 posted on 11/16/2016 1:54:36 PM PST by Boogieman
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Before commenting further, find out the meaning of “natural law.” You don’t know what it means. It has nothing to do with critters.


15 posted on 11/16/2016 5:22:10 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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