Posted on 07/12/2016 12:31:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
Winston Churchill was indeed very elite.
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Which brings us back to Gordon Brown.
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well, the EU can issue regulations which are immediately enforceable “as law” in member states.
So...it is accurate that some things that have the force of law are actually imposed upon the people of Europe by unelected bureaucrats.
Somebody can become president in America without a single vote too, just ask Gerald Ford. Resignations make things muddy for a while in any system.
Churchill wasn’t elected either in 1940.
Actually, they aren’t. When people talk about “the unelected bureaucrats of Brussels”, they usually mean the European commission. The commission is an organisation like no other: more than a civil service but less than a government. Composed of 28 commissioners – one from each country – the commission drafts, enforces and monitors EU laws. But it does not pass laws.
Except Ford was elected on the presidential ticket in part for said purpose.
Or rather he was elected, period. Not a political appointment.
Yes, but it is very rare. Removing a sitting PM is like pulling Clinton away from an orgy with under aged girls.
I like both systems. My preference is to the American one, but both are leaps and bound better than other European states.
His path to the presidency never went through the ticket, he replaced Agnew after the ‘72 election, then got “promoted” 18 months later. By the time he was on the “ticket” in any way it was as incumbent.
I like Question Time, we need that here.
Correct. The European Commission does those things. It is, perhaps, best understood as the executive branch of the EU.
But there’s also the European Council, made up of the heads of each member state. The Council can take votes, and does, and then can impose things on ALL of the member states as law...it can also delegate certain things back to the European Commission, which can then also be imposed upon the member states uniformly, as law. So actually in certain cases, the European Commission can absolutely do things which have the force of law in member states.
The whole category of law called “regulations” in Eurospeak is the most pernicious, and the most objectionable. It is in this category of law making where the EU imposes its (often bureaucratic) laws on to the member states, and on to the people of Europe....including...how to sort their trash. It’s crazy.
It’s also very confusing, and words are not used with their traditional meanings (such as “European Parliament”).
What you offered up is in no way comparable to this:
Since 1900 Britain has had 22 different Prime Ministers. Our list below shows that in that period there have been 14 occasions on which 13 different Prime Ministers have come to power other than through a general election.
| Year | Prime Minister | Party |
| 2007 | Gordon Brown | Labour |
| 1990 | John Major | Conservative |
| 1976 | James Callaghan | Labour |
| 1963 | Sir Alec Douglas-Home | Conservative |
| 1957 | Harold Macmillan | Conservative |
| 1955 | Sir Anthony Eden | Conservative |
| 1940 | Winston Churchill | Conservative |
| 1937 | Neville Chamberlain | Conservative |
| 1935 | Stanley Baldwin | Conservative |
| 1923 | Stanley Baldwin | Conservative |
| 1916 | David Lloyd George | Liberal |
| 1908 | Herbert H. Asquith | Liberal |
| 1905 | Henry Campbell-Bannerman | Liberal |
| 1902 | Arthur Balfour | Conservative |
You can add Theresa May.
Except Ford was elected on the presidential ticket in part for said purpose.”
LOL.
Ummmm...you better check you history books on that point. Ford was never elected on a ticket.
I’m Canadian so from what I understand or have heard about Britain is they have a system that is a bit freer, believe it or not than Canada. A member of the same party might actually disagree with a fellow party member in QP. That would NEVER happen in Canada. They are all a bunch of lemmings.
FWIW, I love American constitutional history. Us Canadians forget how young our country is (1867) relative to the US.
Your not going to get a full house with every hand.
I’ll tell you this, I been in Germany before the euro currency and not a single thing in my life has changed because of the EU. I even still buy plastic bags at the supermarket. If the EU is pressing laws they should tell someone about it. LoL!
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