Posted on 02/16/2016 3:59:49 AM PST by pookie18
Trump has exaggerated his supposed opposition to OIF. PolitiFact:
Again, Trump said he was against the war from the very beginning.
"I'm the only one on this stage that said, 'Do not go into Iraq. Do not attack Iraq,' " Trump said. "Nobody else on this stage said that. And I said it loud and strong. And I was in the private sector. I wasn't a politician, fortunately. But I said it, and I said it loud and clear, 'You'll destabilize the Middle East.' "
Trump often repeats this line, and we've rated a similar Trump claim Mostly False, because he didn't appear to take any public position on the war until after the March 2003 invasion. In this more recent version of the statement, he also said he stated his opposition to the war "loud and clear." But the public record of his positions is thin.
Trump's public opposition to OIF only seems to have started in 2004. Before that, would a President Trump have "lied us into war"?
Hat tip Marc Thiessen for these tweets by Andrew Kaczynski:
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...
Well, it is an absolute lie to say we didn’t find any WMD
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33082-2004May17.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4997808/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/bomb-said-holddeadly-sarin-gas-explodes-iraq/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/05/17/sarin-mustard-gas-discovered-separately-in-iraq.html
And the press had a short, millisecond short, bout of honesty
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/14/isis-chemical-weapons-_n_5987106.html
http://www.ibtimes.com/saddam-era-chemical-weapons-now-under-isis-control-reports-1705144
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-seizes-chemical-weapons-depot-baghdad-sarin-gas-rockets-article-1.1859934
Informative. Thanks.
It’s become apparent that Trump is no just seeking the Republican nomination, but rather the Republican surrender. This repeated threat go “go third-party” is not something a candidate in his commanding position would do.
My preference has always been for Cruz, but I would have gone for Trump if he were to be the nominee. Now I’m really not sure.
I've been sure for quite some time....the guy has really gone off the rails. He ain't right in the head.
He is as big a liar as Hillary. He should have run as a Democrat. He calls everyone else a liar,while changing his stories as often as he changes his socks. Who knows what he believes.
Yes, and Doctor Death had enough biological toxins hidden in her vanity as home to restart Saddam’s bio-weapons program, but the scale of any WMD activity was not what we were promised.
This is closer to the real story, and it is closer to Trump’s position:
With Americans still feeling the pain and fear of 9/ 11, in 2002 the Bush administration began to build a case for invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein. George W. Bush created a special office in the Pentagon— called the Office of Special Plans— specifically for the purpose of supplying him with intelligence regarding Iraq, a task previously performed by the CIA. He put his friends Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz in charge of that intelligence reporting, creating a political “interpreting” operation that supplanted expert analysis by the CIA.
Suddenly the reports coming to the president, and leaked to the public, were full of contentions that Saddam possessed an arsenal of chemical and biological weapons, and suggested the possibility of nuclear weapons as well. Those accusations provided the ingredients for a well-orchestrated public relations campaign to lay the groundwork for an invasion with the express purpose of deposing Saddam Hussein. The justification: With WMDs at the ready, Saddam posed a threat to the United States.
After months of preparation and a demand that Saddam leave the country “or else,” on March 20, 2003, George W. Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq to begin. U.S. forces rapidly dispatched the Iraqi military and toppled Saddam’s government. In December of 2003, Saddam was captured, and three years later, executed.
Mission accomplished, at least for George W. Bush. The man who plotted to kill his father, and committed untold other crimes, is dead. But 12 years later, more than 4,000 American troops have died in Iraq— and $ 1.7 trillion have already been spent, a number that increases every day. The weapons of mass destruction George W. claimed were there, and used to justify that human and financial cost, were never found.
The people of Iraq? The horror of Saddam has been replaced by the horror of civil war, ISIS, and an entirely uncertain future.
Stone, Roger; Hunt, Saint John (2016-02-16). Jeb! and the Bush Crime Family: The Inside Story of an American Dynasty (Kindle Locations 4272-4286). Skyhorse Publishing, Inc.. Kindle Edition.
Why can’t people admit that we found WMD?
The sarin IED alone was proof they existed.
President Bush Admits Iraq Had No WMDs and 'Nothing' to Do With 9/11
President Bush, White House press conference, August 21, 2oo6
Are some of you people think Iraq was the right War?
Yeah, but the sarin ied, mustard gas ied, and other finds says otherwise.
Post 2.
I’m for Cruz because I want a principled conservative as president. I’m for Trump 2nd because I’d really love to see a wild Tasmanian Devil set loose on Washington.
PolitiFact see what the say about Ted “the face of God”.
Manipulating, throwing stones, splitting off voters for third party run to allow Hillary to waltz into the Presidency.
The "Art of the Deal" and oh what a pay off for The Donald this would be
And we cannot forget what a payoff for Hillary. Getting away with 4 murders, espionage, treason and money laundering.
Then of course Obama gets appointed to the USSC, then Eric Holder.
Yes, TEXAS WE CAN SECEDE
Yes Ted is a liar.
The petulant man-child, born with a silver spoon up his ass is wearing thin.
Trump lied, America sighed.
Have you read the one about the headless horseman?
These people (I can’t call all of them FReepers) are blinded by some rainbow unicorn farting rainbow skittles with an imaginary R by his name... :p
Because while there were limited WMD found, there was nothing on the order of WMD that would have proven an actual threat to the United States of America. Nothing that would justify the destruction of a sovereign nation.
We also have George W. Bush saying that there were now WMD, but Saddam had the capacity to make WMD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs
The number of Dem talking points I saw on the subject the past days has been impressive.
Especially the people they were coming from.
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