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Miami Police Union President on Tamir Rice: "Act Like a Thug and You'll Be Treated Like One"
The Miami New Times ^ | December 30, 2015 | Tim Elfrink

Posted on 12/30/2015 8:10:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 12/30/2015 8:10:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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I know that I’m in the minority here on FR, but I am, in theory, pro-union. But this is one instance where the union leader needs to keep his big mouth shut.


2 posted on 12/30/2015 8:13:26 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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Javier has bigger cojones than most of the GOP it seems, save Trump of course.

He’s right. Act like a thug, don’t complain when someone shoots you. Virtually every “victim” put forward by the BLM and the media has been involved in some criminal activity and doing something they’re not supposed to be doing. With Trayvon he was punching Zimmerman in the face, so he got sent to hell, skittles and all. Brown just got done robbing a store and took a swing at a cop. Now he’s pursuing his PhD thesis in the flames of Hades. Even that guy who got strangled (well, he died of a heart attack, actually, if memory serves) selling cigarettes was doing so illegally and resisting arrest while a black sergeant supervised.

Your life expectancy goes way up when you’re not doing stupid or illegal stuff.


3 posted on 12/30/2015 8:16:05 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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"Act like a thug and you'll be treated like one," he writes.

When I was 12, I had a Daisy BB gun too. Would I have been considered to be "acting like a thug" by the police union guy who gave this quote? What is he talking about?
4 posted on 12/30/2015 8:20:07 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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“(And that’s not even to mention the racially charged use of “thug,” which has become internet code in many sectors for the n-bomb.)”

Here we go again. Race card. He didn’t actually call him a n*gger but yeah he did bs.

Thug is about behavior.


5 posted on 12/30/2015 8:20:59 PM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Leaning Right

Agreed. There are no more thuggish groups than police unions, and their leaderships seem to be incapable of anything other than throwing gas on a fire.


6 posted on 12/30/2015 8:21:13 PM PST by stormer
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When I was 12, I had a Daisy BB gun too. Would I have been considered to be "acting like a thug" by the police union guy who gave this quote? What is he talking about?

Did you happen to live in a community where 12 year old kids-- who are 5'7 and 175 pounds-- point BB guns or sometimes real guns at women and rob them?

If no, then the analogy fails.

7 posted on 12/30/2015 8:22:12 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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This whole Orange Tip thing for Toys is ridiculous.

Put an Orange Tip on a real Weapon so the Police will hesitate just a split second, and a Police Officer might end up dead.

Just another useless Liberal panacea that ends up getting people killed.


8 posted on 12/30/2015 8:27:58 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, unable to call a Spade a Spade...)
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There are no more thuggish groups than police unions...

Yep. And the police unions are unique in that they represent people who can actually destroy your life, one way or the other.

I get that it's the job of a police union leader to represent a member, regardless. I get that. But those leaders don't seem to ever acknowledge the their members have a terrible power to destroy lives.

A mistake made by a union cop is not the same as a mistake made by a union carpenter.

9 posted on 12/30/2015 8:29:35 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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Would I have been considered to be "acting like a thug"

I don't know, did you dress like a gangster, take the gun to the park, and point it at strangers?

10 posted on 12/30/2015 8:30:05 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Welfare: It's a Safety Net, Not a Hammock.)
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This whole is a lot more about parental fail than police fail...


11 posted on 12/30/2015 8:30:07 PM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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When I was 12, I had a Daisy BB gun too.

Sigh. The gun the kid had looks EXACTLY like a real gun and the prosecutor said there was undeniable video evidence the kid drew the gun as the police arrived, so the shooting was justified, but it's still a tragedy.

The police union guy only makes it worse.

12 posted on 12/30/2015 8:31:36 PM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Thanks for saving me the time to write those thoughts. Well said.


13 posted on 12/30/2015 8:32:43 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: libertylover

A 12 year old should know better. But maybe the kid was a little childish for his age. How terrible for his family.


14 posted on 12/30/2015 8:38:44 PM PST by maro (what did the President know and when did he know it?)
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Did you happen to live in a community where 12 year old kids-- who are 5'7 and 175 pounds-- point BB guns or sometimes real guns at women and rob them?

Did this kid rob women with this pellet gun? According a quick search on Google, he was just sitting in the park and apparently aimed his pellet gun at people. He didn't actually shoot anyone with it and I don't see anything about him robbing people with it.

Meanwhile, according to Wikipedia, the officer who shot this kid had resigned from a previous position in another city "rather than face certain termination due to concerns that he lacked the emotional stability to be a police officer. Polak said that Loehmann was unable to follow "basic functions as instructed". He specifically cited a "dangerous loss of composure" that occurred in a weapons training exercise"

I never aimed my BB gun at passers-by, no - I was taught not to. If I had, I'd hope police would not have responded by shooting me. This 12 year old - and it doesn't seem relevant to me what his size was, he was a child - apparently hadn't received any training in the use of a potentially dangerous air gun. That does not mean his shooting was warranted.
15 posted on 12/30/2015 8:38:47 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: libertylover

He makes it better! He should say it again and again.


16 posted on 12/30/2015 8:38:53 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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The medical examiner’s report said he was 195 pounds.


17 posted on 12/30/2015 8:39:59 PM PST by bimboeruption (Nothing imtimidates evil more than when the redeemed become fearless.)
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Quote: When I was 12, I had a Daisy BB gun too. Would I have been considered to be "acting like a thug" by the police

1. A daisy BB gun does not look like a real gun
2. I doubt you walked around in a public space pointing it at passers-by
3. I bet you looked 12, not 22

Nevertheless, if you drew your BB gun on a cop, you deserve at minimum a good ass kicking. If it looked like a real 9mm or .45, you deserve your fate!!! Stupid is as stupid posts, er, I mean does.

18 posted on 12/30/2015 8:43:21 PM PST by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it worse)
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Did this kid rob women with this pellet gun?

I didn't say he did, though clearly he was playing the thug with what looked like a real weapon. I essentially said "kids" just like him do, which destroys the notion of a paradise of innocent children playing with water guns and toy guns.

It's the same reason why it's totally fair to freak out if some Arab guy with a big beard is fiddling with what looks like a large clock with wires connected to plastic looking bars.

No, it's not reasonable to conclude it's a freaking clock he made for his teacher.

Meanwhile, according to Wikipedia,

According to the freaking video, the kid pulls the gun from his belt just as the cops pull up. He was asking to be killed.

I never aimed my BB gun at passers-by, no - I was taught not to.

Maybe that's why you're not dead. Though it also helps not to be a member of a neighborhood where there are criminal-rapist youths running around.

19 posted on 12/30/2015 8:44:06 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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This was a Colt replica gun. Looked like the real thing, but instead of bullets it shot pellets.


20 posted on 12/30/2015 8:45:04 PM PST by Bodleian_Girl
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