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Ben Carson should re-think his position on Amnesty and acknowledge that Americans have rights too
Coach is Right ^ | 11/10/15 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 11/10/2015 7:56:58 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

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To: conservativejoy

“If he came out and changed his view now, who could believe him?”

Exactly. The question would be “is Carson really down for the struggle against amnesty?”


21 posted on 11/10/2015 9:26:14 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Oldpuppymax

He would be another one of those that tell us what do instead of listening and getting out of he way.


22 posted on 11/10/2015 9:38:41 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Oldpuppymax

” Is it moral for us, for example, to take advantage of cheap labor from illegal immigrants while denying them citizenship?”

WOW. This question is so wrong on so many levels I don’t even know where to start criticing it.

First of all who’s “us”? The American citizen who lost his job to the illegal? I4 the taxpayer who’s funding his welfare, health care, education, and housing? Is that the “us” that’s being immoral by not also supplying his citizenship?

Additionally, was there some implied promise on our part that when the illegal broke through our border we would give him citizenship?

And did the illegal HIMSELF think he was crossing the border to become a citizen or that he would be quite happy and lucky to simply get a job?


23 posted on 11/10/2015 9:42:15 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Oldpuppymax
Ben Carson should seriously think about bowing out...

The trust you have to build with the American voter is broken...there are to many doubts about him, personally and professionally....

...and another one bites the dust...

24 posted on 11/10/2015 9:44:17 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: MNJohnnie
[Carson] told a prominent group of Latino elected officials that he also supports giving illegal immigrants a path to legalization and eventual citizenship.

Posting what Carson said is a lie?

25 posted on 11/10/2015 9:52:06 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto von Bismarck)
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To: kabar

Prove that Cruz supports Amnesty.


26 posted on 11/10/2015 10:13:15 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry
Prove that Cruz supports Amnesty.

Have you ever heard Cruz say that the lawbreakers should be deported? Why did his amendment to the Gang of 8 bill remove just the path to citizenship for the lawbreakers? He has never been against legalizing their presence.

Here is some proof: Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration

What Mr. Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already: A path to legal status, but not to citizenship. A green card with no right to naturalization.

Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate’s so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Mr. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.

Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.

27 posted on 11/10/2015 12:52:31 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Which candidate has a stronger position, with a snowball’s chance of passing into law?


28 posted on 11/10/2015 1:19:12 PM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: G Larry

Enforcing our existing laws will go a long way to solving the problems. Deportation is the law for those entering illegally. No need to go to Congress for authority. The same holds true for sanctuary cities.

Trump has the best written policy on immigration thanks to Jeff Sessions.


29 posted on 11/10/2015 1:36:30 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Trump IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE!!!!


30 posted on 11/10/2015 3:41:51 PM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

In addition to all this and his violent nature in his youth ever notice how glassy his eyes always are? I think he’s on something.


31 posted on 11/10/2015 4:25:49 PM PST by patriot08 (4th geneneration Texan (girl type))
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To: G Larry

I KNOW TRUMP IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. But the immigration issue is the defining issue of our time. If we don’t resolve it now, everything else is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It may already be too late.


32 posted on 11/10/2015 4:55:56 PM PST by kabar
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