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The Berlin Wall showed us the difference between “securing the border” and building a wall
Coach is Right ^ | 11/9/15 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 11/09/2015 9:03:22 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Half- hearted measures rarely if ever succeed. More times than not they make situations worse because they waste time and energy that could be used to actually achieve our goal.

Anyone who has considered the problem of illegal immigration is familiar with the half-hearted phrases “comprehensive immigration reform” and its companion “secure the border.”

Thanks to Barack Obama’s cavalier attitude toward our safety and well-being we can clearly see that “secure the border” is an empty phrase. It was coined by clever politicians of both Parties to anesthetize us into thinking there is a real effort to shut down our borders when in fact no such thing is happening.

“Securing the border” means stringing some barbed wire a foot off the ground and assigning federal workers deceptively called Border Control Offices at sometimes twenty mile intervals in the wide open stretches of desert between Arizona and Mexico. “Securing the border” means adopting a catch and release program that makes sneaking into our country a game to entertain illegal aliens until they finally tire of the game and refuse to stop when ordered to.

The water and refreshment stands in the desert, Obama’s Administration maintains, stand as proof that these “secure the border” measures don’t work and were never supposed to in the first place.

Walls work; “securing the border” with water stations and single strings of...

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; eastberlin; germany; illegals; mexico

1 posted on 11/09/2015 9:03:22 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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(Democrat) Obama has incresed the wall/fencing around the White Hut
(Democrat)Mayor de Balsio of NYC had a wall increased around Gracie Mansion
But DIM-Wits still insist the a Wall / Fence doesnt work !
Who do you beleive ?
2 posted on 11/09/2015 9:08:58 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (The GOPe and Karl Rove got Obama elected twice. .. How'd that work out for ya ?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I lived inside the Berlin Wall from ‘82-’85, and witnessed some escape attempts (and one successful one).

Most died trying.

The outer ring was in many places a well marked fence.

Next inside was a dog run, followed by a minefield, with guard towers. The guard towers also remotely operated machine guns that faced along the wall itself.

The wall was 14’ tall, with a 3’ diameter cylinder than ran along the top of it.

The mines were quite sensitive - as many rabbits found out...


3 posted on 11/09/2015 9:10:45 AM PST by datura
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To: Oldpuppymax

We need a 2,000 mile long double wall with concertina wire between the two walls and on our side of the second wall. We need motion sensors to detect criminals crossing illegally or tunneling.

We need real penalties for criminals who enter our country illegally, or who overstay a visa, and for the criminals who hire them.

We need to do away with chain migration and with birthright citizenship for the babies born to those who were not legal residents and thus not fully “subject to the jurisdiction” of our government when they gave birth.

Most of all, we need a patriotic president (the opposite of the current occupant of our White House) who will enforce the laws we have.


4 posted on 11/09/2015 9:13:03 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: datura

It’s been said that if you want to determine how free a country is, look at which way the guns are pointed at the border.


5 posted on 11/09/2015 9:14:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Fencing and walls may be part of border security — they are not the entirety of it. Not even if you paint big gold letters on it.


6 posted on 11/09/2015 9:17:54 AM PST by TBP (with the wrong hand)
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To: datura

I saw the wall up close and personal back in ‘81. Came into Berlin on the northern access route (From Schleswig-Holstein) That route was 2 lane blacktop almost the whole way. A lot different than the other access corridors. You got to see quite clearly the complexity of the border mechanism. Everything you say is true. And on this route you got to see how average East Germans lived. Most of them lived quite poorly. Unless of course you were a party apparatchik. You were timed on this route and if you got to the far end too quickly you were given a speeding ticket. Too slowly and you could be detained and interrogated. I’m glad that abomination is gone.

CC


7 posted on 11/09/2015 9:35:46 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Question is this, why have we NOT seen build proposals?

I have not heard a word about the best viable doable, cost effective per mile design yet.

Concrete pre cast dropped between vertical I beams?

Vertical wire?
Electrified?

Built like in Israel, or like something from Jurassic Park?

Or an elevated causeway with just a simple double fence, but fence is reactive.

Or a fence that does not look like a fence? Some unique new design?


8 posted on 11/09/2015 10:09:22 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Trump to win! He wins, we win, the nation wins!)
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To: Daniel Ramsey; Oldpuppymax
Concrete pre cast dropped between vertical I beams?

This kind of wall would be fairly quick to build and depending on the type of soil may need little prep work T-Walls .

9 posted on 11/09/2015 11:00:27 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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