Posted on 10/29/2015 3:15:37 PM PDT by MeganC
I'm asking the FR tech folks for some help! We inherited a Novell network and we migrated it to a Microsoft Active Directory network and we're realizing there are some lingering Novell objects around the network. We paid for Microsoft to look at the problems we were having and that's what their guy said.
Does anyone know of any way to find Novell objects that might be luring around a MS network? I have no clue how to do this and would really appreciate your help.
And no, starting over is not really an option for us.
Thank you!!
Does this help?
https://www.novell.com/documentation/zenworks11/zen11_am_migration/data/migrating.html
Put a sniffer on your core network router, and set up the filtering to watch for that signature. Then, you can start to track it back to the source.
Be sure to look behind the wall:
Server 54, Where Are You?
Missing Novell server discovered after four years
(The original article on TechWeb has been deleted. You can find it on archive.org, but it doesn't have any more info)
put a sniffer on the line and look for any ipx/spx packets...
ha. I don’t know...
We don’t have a Novell server and the one we had was running IP and not IPX/SPX.
The network for the ranch had been Novell and one of my friends migrated it to Windows. She’s really sick now and I am having to work on it and trying to get my head around it all.
We’ve been having problems with weird folder and server access issues and the Microsoft liaison guy we had out says the best he can think of is there are things left over from Novell that are still impacting the network. I’m trying to figure out how to find them. Otherwise we have to start all over with GPS software that runs a lot of our equipment and payroll and all that.
I am a total noob and freely admit it!!! But I am learning fast!
So based on your responses I am going to assume the following:
1) you have recently “gained” a network
2) you are unsure of what exactly is on that network
3) you have little knowledge of the security posture of the devices on that network
4) you have permission from the system owners (business?) to add a server to the network and scan the network.
There is two tools that you can download and use to help in your search. The first is called NMAP the second Nessus
NMAP - https://nmap.org/
NESSUS - http://www.tenable.com/products/nessus/select-your-operating-system
You may be able to use NMAP to find the system as it can identify Novell from Microsoft. The idea would be to get the IP address of the system then look at the arp or CAM tables on the switches and figure out what port the IP address is connected to. Then you can follow the cable and get to the system.
Contact me directly and I will send you my email so we can take this off line.
Are you talking about directory objects, or physical objects (devices)?
I haven’t fooled with Novell in many years and didn’t know that much about it then.
Have you ran a custom query for all computer objects on this particular domain?
You don't really need a custom query. Open Powershell on any DC, or Windows computer that has the RSAT feature installed, and run:
Get-ADComputer -Filter *
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Been 25 years since I had to live with Novell.
Do you own a time machine? :O)
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No, but I downloaded the NMAP thing and I am learning how to use it. Thank you!
Thank you! I will be using the NMAP tool to find out for sure what we have.
To expand on your PoSh:
Get-ADComputer -filter {operatingsystem -like “*Novell*”} -properties operatingsystem
That’s assuming the system is running a Novell OS and is joined to the domain.
You could also go into the Schema Admin and look for attributes and classes related to Novell. Or use a PoSh one-liner:
Get-AdObject -filter {name -like “*Novell*”} -searchBase “CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,dc=contoso,dc=com”
Most migrations don’t carry over Novell-based attributes unless they’re needed. I manage a forest that was migrated from a Novell environment, and aside from some old IDM service accounts I can’t decommission for one reason or another, there’s no trace of Novell left.
Think about the value of your time
If it takes you weeks or months to fix this problem then do some simple multiplication, and decide
Would it be cheaper to set up a new modern network (probably)
It is so effortless these days.
Roger that
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