Posted on 09/19/2015 10:47:37 AM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
What world are you living in? If McCain is not the embodiment of Republican establishment then I don’t know who else is. Stop wasting everyone’s time and go join the centrist losers over at National Review. You’re a lost cause, and again I didn’t stay home in either 2008 and 2012 nor in the congressional elections. I voted Republican. I held my nose for sure in the presidential races, but I voted straight line Republican as well as many millions of other conservatives did too. We’re not the cause of this party’s evident demise so try looking elsewhere for your scapegoat.
jebtard! is a maggot.
A lot of people stayed home because they did not like McCaine or Romney
That is why neither of them won ...
I didn’t like them either but I did what you did ....held my nose and voted
If Trump or Jeb or anyone I don’t like wins I will try to hold my nose and vote for him/her too.
My only problem is that people here think the GOPe (and the GOPe is evidently whoever anyone thinks they are) .....is the real enemy
I see them as a lot of people with ideas similar to mine but maybe not exactly the same .... they are certainly not the enemy .....I think we need as many votes as we can get.
How many Freepers will stay home if Trump does not win? I bet a lot and all of them will be more angry than ever at the so called GOPe. But we WILL pay a price ...and its a very high price
That`s at the heart of the failure of that 'lesser of two evils' argument, best answered by the question at it`s heart.
So you support it? Well what has your philosophy done to stop, let alone reverse the trend by BOTH parties, (otherwise known as the uni-party), towards the monolithic DC monstrosity which now threatens the former Republic?
The death of Republic in two terms, three, how long a 'respite' is your 'compromise' worth? And when your republiCrat party does eventually kill it, and given it`s complicity don`t give me that 'they`re our savior' bullsh*t, will anyone even remember we once were a Republic?
Not a republican and have not been for a long while.
I never stay home, too many local and state elections to vote in, and I can vote third party. IF you party sycophant’s don`t like it, you need to disabuse yourself of the notion that your party owns anyone or our votes, IT DOES NOT!
I refer to it as the 'lesser of two evils' rebuttal. That one question begs more, please, build on it.
Very well argued points. I was always queasy about George W. Bush because of his leftist stances on education and especially on immigration. Voting for a centrist Republican candidate is about one step better than voting for a Democrat. Their premise seems to be vote for us because we can make government more efficient. The old adage that a government that governs best is one that governs least, and a moderate Republican simply will not follow that prescription. Hard choices have to be made if this nation is to survive into the future. I know Trump is no conservative but was he part of the quagmire in DC that created this mess. We’ve been burned by Republican politicians with all their empty promises of conservative governance and all we’ve gotten with our votes is a Republican Party that is more or less a carbon copy of the Democratic Party. We’ve wasted our votes long enough, and the GOP is one or two election cycles from being tossed to political oblivion.
Some of the posters on FR are DUmmies and other rat trolls.
But whatever motivator compels the vote, I`d say fear mostly, they then willingly, hell, even aggressively fight to stay there.
But make no mistake, they are on a plantation, no less than rat voters.
This selective blindness to the progressives in their party then frees their Crat overlords to bend them over at will while they say, metaphorically speaking (from Animal House) 'Thank you sir, may I have another!'.
For those who think they make a point by staying home and throwing a temper tantrum rather than vote for the republican-lite, how has that worked for you the last 2 presidential elections?
Great, you made your point and as a result we now have obamacare, a middle east islamic caliphate created from the massive Iraq pull-out; an Iran that is about to receive 100 billion in terrorist dollars and nukes; and a military that’s one more consecutive democrat administration from falling into frightening disrepair.
But that’s ok right? Because at least we didn’t have to put up with wishy washy pseudo-conservatives like McCain or Romney. We showed them all right!
Oh well I’m sure our grandchildren will appreciate the stance we took in spite of the direction it set their futures in.
One interesting dynamic I’ve observed over the last few elections cycles is that liberals/Dems tend to look for one or two things they agree with a candidate about, and based on those they unite their support behind that candidate, and win the election. Conservatives/Republicans take the opposite approach: they find one or two things they dislike about a candidate, and use that to swear everlasting, unalterable opposition and hatred for that candidate, so they end up fragmented and dis-unified, and lose the election.
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