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NY Times Opinion Pages ^ | 8-11-2015 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 08/11/2015 2:31:05 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot

Memo to pollsters: while I’m having as much fun as everyone else watching the unsinkable Donald defy predictions of his assured collapse, what I really want to see at this point is a profile of his supporters. What characteristics predispose someone to like this guy, as opposed to accepting the establishment candidates?

The reason I’d like to see such a poll is that I suspect that both conservative and liberal pundits are still getting the Trump phenomenon wrong. And yes, that’s the kind of statement — hey, left and right both wrong! — that I usually hate when other pundits do it. But in my case it’s not knee-jerk centrism, it’s an informed guess based on some related evidence.

Right now, the conservative explanation of the GOP’s onset of DTs is, as best I can figure, that base voters are victims of celebrity; what they really want is a true conservative, but they’re being hijacked and hoodwinked by someone who makes good TV.

Meanwhile, the liberal version, as I’ve seen it, seems to be that Trump is appealing to resentment that ultimately rests on economic failure: working-class whites have been left behind by soaring inequality, but they mistakenly blame immigrants taking their jobs.

But are Trumpists being hoodwinked? Are they members of the suffering working class who don’t understand why they’re hurting? OK, here’s my guess: they look a lot like Tea Party supporters. And we do know a fair bit about that group.

First of all, Tea Party supporters are for the most part not working-class, at least in the senses that group is often defined. They’re relatively affluent, and not especially lacking in college degrees.

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KEYWORDS: 2016election; krugman; nytimes; trump
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Some blind nuggets from the bug-eyed Nobel laureate.

Contrast that to the hit piece from WaPo. Donald Trump’s surge is all about less-educated Americans

1 posted on 08/11/2015 2:31:05 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

We are still ‘affluent white racists’, have no fear.


2 posted on 08/11/2015 2:33:51 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Has Paul Krugman actually ever gotten anything right?
3 posted on 08/11/2015 2:35:05 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Sir Napsalot
What characteristics predispose someone to like this guy, as opposed to accepting the establishment candidates?

True AMERICANS fed up with the Uniparty government we have been subjected to that is taking the USA towards a one world Agenda 21 government of masters and slaves.

4 posted on 08/11/2015 2:35:20 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Sir Napsalot

Now Trumpbots support Krugman. Wake me when they get to Chomsky.


5 posted on 08/11/2015 2:39:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Sir Napsalot
The reason I’d like to see such a poll is that I suspect that both conservative and liberal pundits are still getting the Trump phenomenon wrong. And yes, that’s the kind of statement — hey, left and right both wrong! — that I usually hate when other pundits do it. But in my case it’s not knee-jerk centrism, it’s an informed guess based on some related evidence.

That's a knee-slapper right there, Paul.

6 posted on 08/11/2015 2:42:11 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: nickcarraway

Unfair assessment.

Linking to articles to generate discussion like all posts on FR, it doesn’t not mean (1) I support Trump, nor (2) I agree 100% with what Krugman says.

Besides, I also want to get a clearer picture of who Trump supporters are.


7 posted on 08/11/2015 2:45:08 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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Projection wishing as normal. The polls are right there for anyone to read, which is specifically why the author tossed up wishcasting - actually referencing the existing polls would disprove their point.
8 posted on 08/11/2015 2:48:37 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

So far we’ve been profiled as crazies”,”angry”,”hoodwinked” and “star-struck”. They think we made our decision to support Trump lightly and that we are fickle enough to abandon him on the slightest criticism.

Yet we are not any of the above.


9 posted on 08/11/2015 2:50:02 PM PDT by DannyTN
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I’m proud to be a “Crazie”.


10 posted on 08/11/2015 2:50:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Don Corleone

What is with these mondodismos?

Look in the mirror! You are in an Elite DC political class bubble! WOW, what arrogance! Take a gosh darn road trip and find America!!!!!

Or you ask Senator Cruz to explain it to you, he would do an excellent job.

I would send you to Trump, but Mr. Trump’s eloquence is laced with a lot of testosterone, I don’t believe as a DC elite jooornalist you would understand.


11 posted on 08/11/2015 3:06:07 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh get over yourself; you anti-Trump troller!


12 posted on 08/11/2015 3:13:10 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Sir Napsalot

I can’t stand that POS.


13 posted on 08/11/2015 3:17:39 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Yip! We’ze all tobaccy-chewin’ white men a-living in the hollers of Wes’ Virginny and hopin’ the Yankees don’ win this here war and somebody he’ps us with the cotton crop this year. Gotta go now, Marsh Krugman, mah wife jus’ give birth to our second two-headed young’un in the Lower 40. Here’s hopin’ The Donald’ll be the next prizedent and help share’n his corn seed with us’n. Bless yer heart!


14 posted on 08/11/2015 3:17:42 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: nopardons

= conservative


15 posted on 08/11/2015 3:17:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SmokingJoe

No Krugman is habitually wrong 24/7.


16 posted on 08/11/2015 3:18:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: miss marmelstein
😂 so good!
17 posted on 08/11/2015 3:21:42 PM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: nickcarraway
I am a conservative; thanks for admitting that I am.

Or was your inane post supposed to mean something else? If so, learn to write complete sentences.

18 posted on 08/11/2015 3:23:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Anti-Trump trolls = conservative.


19 posted on 08/11/2015 3:25:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Sir Napsalot

Right. We must be racist.

These people are as predictable, boring, and wrong as can be. They just never get it, and they can’t understand why some of us like it when a candidate freely shows that he “gets” what is important to us peons.


20 posted on 08/11/2015 3:43:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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