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Examining trial: Rare court spectacle set for Monday afternoon [Waco]
Radio Legendary ^ | August 9, 2015

Posted on 08/09/2015 1:25:12 PM PDT by don-o

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1 posted on 08/09/2015 1:25:13 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

maybe we will finally get the truth.

All I want is the truth.


2 posted on 08/09/2015 1:30:15 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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To: don-o

In before the wackos.


3 posted on 08/09/2015 1:31:32 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: don-o
In before the usual lizards, but how can a police detective allege that someone "... were there looking for trouble...".

This would require either mind reading capabilities, or the Detective would have had to had prior first hand knowledge of such stated intent by the defendant.

4 posted on 08/09/2015 1:33:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Projection....


5 posted on 08/09/2015 1:41:33 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Challenging probable cause can be a long drawn out process

Judge Sullivan: Some Arrests at 2004 RNC Lacked Probable Cause

6 posted on 08/09/2015 1:46:08 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“In before the usual lizards, but how can a police detective allege that someone “... were there looking for trouble...”.”

Never trust websites when they don’t ‘quote’ and don’t source.

Sometimes you cannot even trust them when the do ‘quote’ and link. Several times on this subject I have gone to the link of sites to find out that they altered the facts for click-bait.


7 posted on 08/09/2015 2:12:22 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

>>> In before the usual lizards, but how can a police detective allege that someone “... were there looking for trouble...”.
This would require either mind reading capabilities, or the Detective would have had to had prior first hand knowledge of such stated intent by the defendant. <<<

It has been alleged that a police ‘confidential informant’ (or two) was present in the Cossacks/Scimitars that was agitating for a violent situation.

I suspect that the police C.I. was a bit too successful in agitating, so it’s possible that the officer in question may have had prior knowledge of intended violence — planned by a police operative.


8 posted on 08/09/2015 3:58:49 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Cancelled due to lack of interest.)
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To: JJ_Folderol

“It has been alleged that a police ‘confidential informant’ (or two) was present in the Cossacks/Scimitars that was agitating for a violent situation.”


“Such alleged ...”

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9 posted on 08/09/2015 4:31:33 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Smokin' Joe

Article: “Those identical, non-specific affidavits allege only “

Actually, the affidavits also allege that the bikers started shooting at each other first then fired upon the police when the police tried to break it up.

It is alleged that the police had multiple pole cameras set up and have it all on record.


10 posted on 08/09/2015 4:57:55 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

“Actually, the affidavits also allege that the bikers started shooting at each other first then fired upon the police when the police tried to break it up.”
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Hogwash. The police did NOT try to break it up. They went in guns blazing. Now whom of you with a valid concealed weapon and permit, would not instinctively go for their firearm to protect themselves from a massacre by the police or any other armed person out to do you harm?

With 27 people shot and 9 of them dead; how can anyone with an ounce of common sense not see that the police, IN THIS CASE, went in with the intent to kill; not break up a fight. Not all of the police there, obviously, but enough of the 20+ LEO’s on scene to shoot so many.

When will those criminals be arrested on a million dollar bond? When will the ones responsible for setting up this melee that maimed and killed so many be arrested on that same bond amount? When will we see justice for those wrongfully arrested and incarcerated.

I’m a law and order kinda guy. I also believe no one is above the law. In fact, if a LEO commits a crime, because they are held to a much higher standard because of the responsibility they have, the authority they have, and their position in the community; it makes the crime even more heinous than if some Joe Schmoe did it. LEO’s know this. At least they better know it. On top of the danger they might possibly face daily; this is why most LEO’s are quite well paid these days with excellent benefits.


11 posted on 08/10/2015 12:26:56 AM PDT by Boomer (Politically Incorrect and proud of it. "Live Free Or Die" is not just a slogan.)
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To: TexasGator
It is alleged that the police had multiple pole cameras set up and have it all on record.

Really? Then where is the video?

If it substantiated the police narrative, I suspect it would not have spent so long in post production editing and been shown, at least enough to substantiate the police narrative.

This is an odd exception to the usual Law Enforcement M.O. of justifying a potentially controversial shoot ASAP in the media.

12 posted on 08/10/2015 2:37:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

And when videos are released, how will their integrity be verified?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3322320/posts?page=70#70


13 posted on 08/10/2015 4:48:47 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

http://www.wired.com/2014/10/physics-fake-videos/


14 posted on 08/10/2015 8:13:49 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: don-o; Cboldt; All

@D The ones set for this week have been postponed until next week.— Tommy Witherspoon (@TSpoonFeed) August 10, 2015

I had tweeted to Tommy Witherspoon asking if his paper was covering today's Exam Trial in real time and he just replied.

15 posted on 08/10/2015 8:14:46 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Boomer

“Hogwash. The police did NOT try to break it up. They went in guns blazing.”

LOL


16 posted on 08/10/2015 8:15:54 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: don-o
-- @D The ones set for this week have been postponed until next week.-- Tommy Witherspoon --

The gag order will be lifted before the trial, then. Not that I expect to hear much before the trial, rather, after, no matter which way it goes.

17 posted on 08/10/2015 9:38:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TexasGator

“It is alleged that the police had multiple pole cameras set up and have it all on record.”

Then release the videos.


18 posted on 08/10/2015 9:40:16 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: don-o
More details at Aging Rebel ...
Dallas - The attorney for Matthew Clendennen, a Twin Peaks defendant who was scheduled for an examining trail today, Monday, August 10, agreed to waive his client's right to the pre-trial procedure in exchange for sweeping changes to his conditions of bond.

F. Clinton Broden filed an agreement in 54th Criminal District Court that would call for:

1) Any curfew restriction on Mr. Clendennen be removed in its entirety.

2) Any travel restriction on Mr. Clendennen be limited to travel outside the State of Texas.

3) The condition placed on Mr. Clendennen to "[t]otally avoid the consumption of any alcoholic beverages" be removed in its entirety.

4) Any restrictions limiting Mr. Clendennen's right to (be) associated with other "Members or Associates of any motorcycle clubs" be amended to allow him to meet with and converse with John Wilson or employees of Legend Cycles of Waco, Texas for the purpose of selling his motorcycle. When time for the examining trial came at 2 p.m. today, Monday, August 10, it was learned that

Judge James Morgan had reset all examining trials in the Twin Peaks biker shooting melee of May 17. A clerk in the Justice Court of Judge Pete Peterson said Judge Morgan is "unavailable this week." There is no information when the examining trials will be set. More details as they become available.

Reached for comment, First Assistant District Attorney Michael Jarret said, "As far as we're concerned, that gag order is still in effect." Judge Matt Johnson has seven days in which to vacate the order. "I can't get into specifics." An attorney defending an identical case said it is rumored the Clendennen examining trial will be re-set for a week from today, Monday, August 17. "No one really knows which judge will hear the cases," he said."

A reasonable move by Broden. It would have to be agreed to by the state and accepted by the judge.

19 posted on 08/10/2015 3:15:31 PM PDT by Cboldt
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Confusing. “Agreed to waive....”???

Agreed with whom? In what venue?

Also odd that they gave the case to a Judge who is “not available” for week.


20 posted on 08/10/2015 3:30:10 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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