Posted on 07/21/2015 5:57:01 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
This is just another repeat of the old gun-control argument that no one except the most highly trained can be trusted with a firearm. BTW, how many stories have we heard about how those highly trained police officers indiscriminately spraying bullets? Surely, our military can do no worse.
The real issue is that senior commanders would rather explain away attacks like the ones in Chattanooga than explain a few accidental discharges.
Yes..., doesn't everyone know that our military are only trained to "Spray & Pray" their weapons today? BS!!!!!
“Familiarization” is not “training”. I’m familiar with my Dell Computer’s handbook but that doesn’t mean I know how to put it into practice (and I don’t).
The writer is a fraud. All policemen and federal security guards/officers have to qualify about 4 times a year, or more. My son did, both as a soldier and a police officer.
Any military unit that lets its members get rusty in arms use is a pisspoor one with pisspoor leaders. You might as well carry around a pen since “the pen is mightier than the sword”, in theory. Now practice is something else.
It’s just not right that, as soon as they set foot off a military base, these soldiers can carry a gun and defend themselves just like every other citizen, yet we expect them to be sitting ducks for our enemies while on duty.
There’s a reason every Marine is an expert rifleman.
EVERY soldier, broadly defined, should be ready for the front lines at all times - as the attack exemplified. Ships can get boarded, infiltrators may attack nerve centers, spies may be found and need stopping. Be ready to kill people and break things at a moment’s notice. Even the ship’s cook may find himself having to single handedly stop enemy infiltration.
never hurt before
agreed
flame away but i am an army veteran tanker and a ccw holder and i agree with a lot of what the article says. most soldiers are not trained in small arms beyond basic and maybe once a year qualification. there is also the question of what are they going to carry and the security involved with lost weapons. we lost a .45 in Germany and they almost pulled the damn turret to look for it.
i think ccw holders should be allowed to carry, civilian and military; recruiters; and those working off military bases plus some individuals in units on base. but an 18 year old out of AIT TAMMS clerk carrying an M4 all the time is not a good solution unless they can show proficiency beyond basic qualifications.
would a recruiter open carrying in a restrictive anti-gun state like NY or NJ be allowed to carry without regard to state law?
who would be liable for inaccurate fire by a soldier killing innocent civilians?
as a ccw holder i know i have different and stricter standards regarding deadly force than police officers and the soldiers would though an obvious terror attack would be different than me in a fast food joint when an armed robbery takes place.
Yeah, you’re probably right. They don’t need any weapons. Just let the Muzzies shoot up the troops. I mean, hey, America’s defeated already, right? Let’s just come out and admit we lost to the Muslims.
>>The real issue is that senior commanders would rather explain away attacks like the ones in Chattanooga than explain a few accidental discharges.
BINGO!
I said much the same in one or two of the early threads on this.
And BTW, I much prefer the term negligent discharge as being more accurate and descriptive. AD should be dropped from the lexicon in favor of ND.
“Why Military Security Experts Know That Arming All Troops Is Not the Answer”
Or maybe why people who think they know this are NOT experts.
And he’s bigoted towards car repairmen. What a low life.
Well, the woman US Ambassador in Charge, was responsible for that in Port Stature of Arms on board. That’s right, the US State Dept. made that call, and Our US Military bowed and said “ Yes Maam”.
I gotta ask, why post this drivel from a nothing?
False.
I was a navigator.
And my in port emergency response post was on the flying bridge, with a rifle.
Why? Becausecause regardless of rank I was the best shot on the ship, and we had a captain that understood that if we were under duress we needed to win.
My chief was to double check exit charts (always already laid out) and I was only seconds away from my underway post once we got the ship moving. Until then, I was down in the sights.
Yes. Places like NY, NJ, MA, DE, etc. would be a real problem, I think. One way to do it at a recruiting station might be to have a safe with a few guns inside and certain people assigned to have a weapon at all times and controlled access to the safe. Some extra training would definitely be helpful for learning how to handle any potential terrorist threats.
I wanted to see everyone in the service armed before Jade Helm.
;-)
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The writer also makes an important Posse Comitatus argument against arming military in civilian areas, and I believe we must be careful not to let feelings cloud our judgment and turn a danger to a few into a greater peril for all. If we end up with armed troops in our cities and towns, the terrorists will have already defeated us by robbing us of our freedom as American citizens.
The key to combatting Muslim terror on American soil is to remove the Muslims and keep them out, not to destroy our free society while awaiting the next attack.
Hmmm.
The local police ‘shoot at paper targets’ around twice a year....and they seem to do ok. And contrary to the author’s assertion, the Army uses more than paper targets. Even a cook or mechanic will have shot silhoutte ‘pop up’ targets at a range, at least once a year.
And didn’t the soldiers in Iraq carry a weapon around 24/7...why could they be trusted there but not here.
Anyway, his “all or nothing” logic is flawed. What if everyone normally assigned a pistol carried it around every day...not all soldiers, but enough to be a deterrent.
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