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Why Military Security Experts Know That Arming All Troops Is Not the Answer (barf alert)
The Trace ^ | 7/21/15 | ADAM WEINSTEIN

Posted on 07/21/2015 5:57:01 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

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fta: "At best, it’s the gut feeling of a car repairman in Connecticut and the political stumpers that pander to him; at worst, it’s the xenophobic expression of pathos by conservative chickenhawks."

The writer of this tripe thought he was slick by, he thought, surreptitiously whipping out the "YOU'RE A RACIST!" on anyone who disagrees with th is lame position. Besides, the military "aren't trained to neutralize active shooters?" What the hell was American Sniper all about?

1 posted on 07/21/2015 5:57:01 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

“If we can save just one life...”


2 posted on 07/21/2015 5:59:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Impala64ssa

I’m with them, ever since we gave our military GUNS, there has been a body count of anti-Americans. This cannot please the liberals./


3 posted on 07/21/2015 6:01:47 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Impala64ssa

Fine. Arm all Marines.


4 posted on 07/21/2015 6:04:08 PM PDT by petitfour (Americans need to repent.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Interesting. So tell me about the MOS and experience of the Marines left exposed to murder last week.


5 posted on 07/21/2015 6:04:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Impala64ssa

GD’d idiot missed the MAIN point of saying arm the recruiters. These were MARINES. You cannot become a MARINE without proficiency as a rifleman. Period. All MARINES are proficient with firearms... to complete boot camp and become...a US Marine.

From a cook’s assistant up to the Commandant— all Marines are rifleman.

Other services should require the same. That is all.


6 posted on 07/21/2015 6:09:56 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Impala64ssa

If Bloomberg thinks disarming everybody would end gun violence why does he have armed bodyguards?


7 posted on 07/21/2015 6:15:52 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Impala64ssa

The only ones that should be armed are those who choose to embrace the requisite discipline to feel personally competent.


8 posted on 07/21/2015 6:16:11 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: John S Mosby

11 Bravo is EVERYONE’S secondary MOS. if not primary.


9 posted on 07/21/2015 6:17:38 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Impala64ssa

You don’t have to arm ALL of them. Just enough so that any crazy, azzhole, Muslim, homicidal maniac will think twice and won’t be able to execute people at will.


10 posted on 07/21/2015 6:18:53 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Impala64ssa

This so-called writer has never heard of BASIC TRAINING where all servicemen and women go through arms training.

They are taught to shoot, hit, and kill the enemy. Period.

By the way, there are a lot of auto mechanics who can drive like the pros. What a way to insult actual working people, Adam.

My 9 year old granddaughter can shoot a handgun, accurately, as can her mother (plus shotguns and other little thingies). Her uncle, my son, was a range and combat qualified and experienced Sharpshooter (1,000 yards with an M-249 - and that hurts. Just ask the dead Iraqi terrorists who pissed him off).

I didn’t fire a handgun until I was 65, but I put a big hurt on the Bin Laden target we used at a range. Stitched him up and down across the face and chest.

Even though I didn’t have to carry a weapon in VN and Cambodia, I knew how to use them if necessary. Learned that from an NRA instructor before you were born, Adam.

Well, Adam, I guess you just think our military personnel are incompetent, hamhanded bozos who cannot be trusted with a personal sidearm, even if they have gone through basic training.

Just another leftist, arrogant, little shit who thinks he is superior to everyone else and can tell them what they can or cannot do.

Got news for you dodo, you wouldn’t last 5 seconds in a real emergency. Might as well put a “I DON’T CARRY A WEAPON” SIGN ON YOUR ASS, and if you are Jewish, put a Star of David there just for fun. Jihadists don’t like us JOOSZ, esp. unarmed one.


11 posted on 07/21/2015 6:19:06 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Impala64ssa

I agree. Not all military members should be armed. We have “Public Affairs Officers” who in most cases have no business handling weapons. We have politicized senior officers and diverse “transgender” servicemen, both categories that may not be trustworthy. Just as the liberal talking head (Sharpton?) said he didn’t want everyone in strip malls running around with guns near a recruiting center, I don’t want literally everyone in our military armed.

However, I do want about 90% or 95% of our military armed. Almost all Marines are infantry trained and should be armed whenever they or their immediate supervisors believe firearms will add to their safety or mission success. The percentage may be slightly less in the other services, but it’s still extremely high. I don’t want all uniformed personnel armed all the time, just most of them armed whenever that would add to their safety or effectiveness (which includes whenever on recruiting duty).


12 posted on 07/21/2015 6:28:23 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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This so-called writer has never heard of BASIC TRAINING where all servicemen and women go through arms training.

Her specifically addresses this:

Practically speaking, this means that your average military member’s firearms experience may only go as far as some boot camp familiarization with a service rifle on a “static range,” plinking at paper targets to qualify for a marksmanship ribbon. Some services are more stringent than others — “every Marine is a rifleman,” the old saw goes, but even most Marines only qualify annually in the narrow realm of target marksmanship, not tactical handgunning or law enforcement uses of firearms. Civilians may believe that all members of the military are “stone-cold killer weapons experts” — but their files say otherwise, as former Army Special Forces officer and Pentagon official Steven P. Bucci told the Boston Globe.

I have no idea whether that statement is accurate, but he did address your point.
13 posted on 07/21/2015 6:29:21 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: Impala64ssa

“not trained to neutralize active shooters”

No, they must use their bodies to stop the shooters bullets. WTH?

Sometimes all it takes is someone just shooting back to stop one of these nutcases and cause them to off themselves. Amazing. Leave our bases and other military locations as soft targets? I HATE the left.


14 posted on 07/21/2015 6:30:38 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The left. Sacrificing our military every chance they get.


15 posted on 07/21/2015 6:32:53 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: Impala64ssa

No comments allowed at the article.

Shocking, right?


16 posted on 07/21/2015 6:38:33 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (Enter something.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

My thoughts as well.


17 posted on 07/21/2015 6:38:54 PM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s a partial solution and a good idea. There are no total solutions to terrorism.


18 posted on 07/21/2015 6:41:11 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: ronnietherocket3
"...Civilians may believe that all members of the military are “stone-cold killer weapons experts..."

No, only liberal pussies like the person who wrote this article believe that.

19 posted on 07/21/2015 6:42:12 PM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.Buy into it,)
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To: wastoute

True that. My dad’s comment on the USS Cole was... “what the hell- they were in a hostile port, or any port with a warship. The deck guards on either side should have had manned gangway security and 2 50 Cal teams each side. Could have shot the bastards in a rubber boat at 200 plus yards and blown them to hell— figures they don’t do that any more- idiots” Semper Fidelis et Deo Vindice.


20 posted on 07/21/2015 6:43:10 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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