Posted on 07/01/2015 6:45:10 AM PDT by don-o
Very slick strategy - Neuter the First Amendment by starvation.
“Very slick strategy - Neuter the First Amendment by starvation. “
That’s one possible view and it may be correct. Another view is the judge is attempting to prevent the case from being tried on TV where rules of evidence don’t apply and reputations and careers of presumably innocent and worthy public servants are ruined. (Admittedly, it’s hard to view many of the current public servants as anything but selfish, partisan hacks out for their own aggrandizement. But we should at least give them a chance under rule of law and evidence to state their case.)
naaa.....
Clint just needs to turn his findings over to a non-attorney third party.
Verbally direct 3rd party which rocks to turn over.
Everyone walked into this with their eyes wide open. Twin Peaks was asked not to have this, the patrons who knew it was trouble, and the cops knew they would have to clean up the mess.
BTW, does anyone know how many of the 170 are still in jail?
IIRC, the bond amount was significantly reduced for who were jailed.
” But we should at least give them a chance under rule of law and evidence to state their case.)”
Especially considering they have denied due process to those they arrested. Right?
Cops didn’t clean up anything. They did make a bigger mess.
Broden mentioned in his pleading yesterday that Waco PD had recently released video of an armed robbery 24 hours after it occurred.
My local LE routinely publicize security camera pico of suspects alleged to being caught in the act.
It is so common that suspicions must arise when such is withheld.
That contention is disputed, not that the contention has much relevance to the conduct of the players.
TP flat out denies that they were asked any such thing. There is no records - no restraining order, no letter...nothing but the words of Sgt Swanton.
And Yahoo News reported that cops and been there only a couple of times in the previous six months.
Due process is the legal requirement that the state must respect all legal rights that are owed to a person. Due process balances the power of law of the land and protects the individual person from it.
I suspect that we can’t take any of the partisan accounts presented so far (and all of them are partisan) to conclude anything has actually been denied. The news that we get translates events that may have taken hours or days and involved many people and competing concerns and parses them down to a teaser of ten to twenty words. That teaser is necessarily tainted by the need to seem explosive and to grab attention from the competition. This is why we have a deliberative and adversarial justice system. I’m prepared to wait for that system to run its course.
As of Monday midnight, 11 still locked up
“Broden mentioned in his pleading yesterday that Waco PD had recently released video of an armed robbery 24 hours after it occurred.”
An armed robbery is a very simple event. Video shot from one or two angles of a complicated wide-ranging scene would depict little. It must be set into context with testimony from the many participants. Comparing video from an armed robbery to a shooting that occurred over a longer time frame and involved over 100 participants is like comparing a one panel cartoon to a novel by Tolstoy.
I have to say, the further down this rabbit hole we get, the curiouser and curiouser it gets.
A google search leads to this article which gives a list of all released and bond amount:
Updated: List of Twin Peaks bikers jailed, released
As of midnight Monday, 166 of the 177 bikers arrested after May 17 shootout at
Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco had been released.
Thank you for the imprisoned numbers update!
I would like to hear what you think about this.
Judge Sullivan: Some Arrests at 2004 RNC Lacked Probable Cause
The matter of 177 identical probable cause affidavits seem outrageous on its face. In the matter I linked, the judges affirms the requirement of individualized probable cause for crimes alleged to have been committed by each individual arrested.
Interesting that those hearings were scheduled like “first one on August 6th” or something like that.
Modified, limited hangout= admission of guilt. The question is what guilt? It must be pretty bad.
“I would like to hear what you think about this.”
Thank you. I’ll get to it later today or tonight.
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