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What if Obama decides to ignore the courts, and move ahead with amnesty?
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Posted on 05/27/2015 7:23:09 AM PDT by ken5050

Success in politics, as in war and chess, requires the ability to plan several moves ahead. As Obama awaits court decisions on several of his key policy initiatives, it’s surprising that there has been little or no speculation as to just what exactly was he thinking?


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegals; obama
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22 times previously Obama, that noted constitutional layer, said that he lacked the authority to take the very actions on illegals that he has now done so unilaterally.

Surely at some point in the process, the 23rd Obama might have thought that there’s at least a chance that the courts would agree with the first 22 Obamas.

And if so, then what? What’s the Plan B?

The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals just denied a request to remove a lower court’s ruling that puts on hold Obama’s move to allow some 5 million illegals to obtain work permits and other federal benefits.

On its present course, the matter will end up before the Supreme Court, and likely after the Court has ruled against the administration in the Obamacare case.

This is the baseball equivalent of a batter taking a pitch with a two-strike count.

Or is there perchance something else afoot?

Democrats, while sharply split with Obama over the trade initiative,are just about universal in support of his amnesty initiatives. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) 6%, commenting on the court’s decision yesterday, called it a “disappointing delay of a clear outcome.”

Hillary Clinton, the presumptive Democrat nominee, has come out strongly in support of Obama’s executive actions, even saying that as president she would “go further, and do more.”

It’s like the debate on global warming…Democrats believe the case is closed. They are in the right.

So, what then would happen if tomorrow Obama announces that “as he believes the court decision is wrong, and because it is crucial that we act now”, he instructs all departments of the Executive Branch to ignore the court injunction and proceed to implement his executive orders.

And why wouldn’t Obama want to take this action? Does he even have a downside here?

Democrats have a long history of running against the courts when they didn’t like the decisions. FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court. Democrats have successfully filibustered against conservative nominees to the courts, and viciously slandered those that managed to get confirmed. Democrats profess fealty to the “rule of law” only when it furthers their objectives.

But facing a totally failed middle east policy, the likelihood of Iran getting a nuclear device, a China and Russia that are aggressively expanding…in short, the total collapse of his presidency; there is one option open to Obama.

Deflect attention. That’s what magicians do. Create another crisis, and take advantage of it.

If tomorrow Obama announced that he was ignoring the court’s injunction; well, Tehran could drop a nuke on Tel Aviv, ISIS could capture Bagdad, and turn the US Embassy into their world headquarters, and these cataclysmic events might make page A19 in the NY Times and WaPo.

I am NOT a lawyer, so I’m not sure what the immediate sequence of events would be in that case, except that it would exceed the import of 2000’s Bush v.Gore by a magnitude of 1000.

I assume the House would almost immediately move to impeach, and the Senate would fail to convict. The Democrat caucus would hold.

Then what happens? I have no idea where we would go from there. I’ll leave it to others, far more learned that I, to weigh in. But I would suggest that the mere fact that we can even contemplate such a series of events is in and of itself frightening.

The United States is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic. The key word here being “The Constitution.”

And if that is shredded, eviscerated, then what do we have?

One thing for sure. Obama’s legacy will be of achieving a 100% success in “fundamentally transforming” America.

1 posted on 05/27/2015 7:23:09 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Liz; maggief

FYI


2 posted on 05/27/2015 7:23:28 AM PDT by ken5050 (If Hillary is elected president, what role will Huma Abedin have in the White House? Scary, eh?)
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To: ken5050

Absolutely nothing will happen, that’s what.


3 posted on 05/27/2015 7:24:04 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: ken5050
What do you mean "what if?"
4 posted on 05/27/2015 7:24:14 AM PDT by haywoodwebb (Telling people the truth about Jesus is all that really matters now...)
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To: ken5050

I suspect the arrogant SOB has not stopped even now.


5 posted on 05/27/2015 7:25:22 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ken5050

If I were the next President, I’d round up all those illegally given quasi-legal status and deport them post haste.


6 posted on 05/27/2015 7:25:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ken5050

What if Obama decides to ignore the courts, and move ahead with amnesty?

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Why Boehner and the Repubs in Congress would put their foot down and stop him.

Heh heh.

Ha ha ha.

HA HA HAH!! (Oh I crack myself up!)


7 posted on 05/27/2015 7:27:18 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: ken5050

Okay, so you guys know the plan. I'll ignore the courts and you'll let me do it. And for
pete's sake John ... don't cry about it this time!

8 posted on 05/27/2015 7:28:58 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: ken5050

No worries. Check$ and Balance$ will still be rolling in for the National Socialists and the GOPe, CONgre$$ and America’s robed mullahs. Totalitarian subjugation marches on and in the heads of wee the people.


9 posted on 05/27/2015 7:30:14 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: ken5050

That would take us to the question all tyrants face - who will the army back? Obama has been working hard to make sure that the answer is in his favor.


10 posted on 05/27/2015 7:31:14 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: ken5050
Contempt of court.
Contempt of Congress.

Add them to the list of impeachable offenses about which no one in the House will do a thing.

Nothing to see here, move along.

11 posted on 05/27/2015 7:32:05 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It is never untimely to yank the rope of freedom's bell." - - Frank Capra)
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To: Servant of the Cross
He's a BIBLICAL CURSE !


12 posted on 05/27/2015 7:33:06 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: ken5050

If the President refuses to the rulings of a federal Court, a constitutional crisis ensues.


13 posted on 05/27/2015 7:34:46 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: ken5050

Nothing will happen. Who’s going to take action?

We’ll talk about it a lot, though.


14 posted on 05/27/2015 7:34:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: ken5050
That was the thinking that night of the big crowd of angry, loud talking people who marched down to the jail, where they stopped and waited, while one of them shouted out in the darkness, “Bring out those ballot boxes . . . .”

From inside the jail, a deputy laughed. “Why don’t you call the law . . . ?” The answer came back quickly, cutting the laughter short,

“There is no law in McMinn County.”

It was a long, stretched-out silence that lasted several seconds and then a deputy yelled, “Aw, go to hell . . . .”

The Second Amendment and the Battle of Athens
http://www.behindbluelines.com/2013/01/09/the-second-amendment-and-the-battle-of-athens/

There is no law in the United States.

Only militarized .gov gunthugs, and the corrupt, felonious politicians who wield them against the peasantry...

15 posted on 05/27/2015 7:40:44 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: haywoodwebb

LOL! Eggs actly what I was gonna say. “Courts? We don’t need no steenkin’ courts.” “Congress? We don’t need no steenkin’ congress.” “Read the Bill? You steenkin’ legislators don’t need to read no steenkin’ Bill. Just sign it and STFU.”


16 posted on 05/27/2015 7:40:48 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: ken5050

Nothing will happen. Nothing will change.


17 posted on 05/27/2015 7:40:49 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: ken5050

18 posted on 05/27/2015 7:41:00 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Steely Tom

Any employee who carried out his illegal order could be charged with contempt of court as a starter. Court could not charge O POS because he would be immune. Never expect this congress to impeach.


19 posted on 05/27/2015 7:41:05 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Gaffer
If I were the next President, I’d round up all those illegally given quasi-legal status and deport them post haste.

The sane reaction. Although this administration will leave a residual regime in the courts that will hamper such a sane course of action for decades.

20 posted on 05/27/2015 7:44:57 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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