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Even in 2015, the New York Times is still pretending that desalination does not exist
wordpress ^ | April 6, 2015 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 04/06/2015 3:51:29 AM PDT by grundle

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To: Hugin

Yeah. California has multiple problems combined into one that can never be solved through a single simple fix.


21 posted on 04/06/2015 4:44:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Hugin

How is water an inconsistent return.


22 posted on 04/06/2015 5:05:19 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: Hugin
each plant costs 300-400 million and provides 50 million gallons per day, join that with reclaiming and reusing water that they don't do now couldn't hurt in the long run. the population of the whole state is 39 million. They are trying to spend 10 billion on high speed rail for a few people, that money would be 25 desalinization plants. They just don't understand dead people don't ride trains. Priorities!!!
23 posted on 04/06/2015 5:27:42 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: lilypad

You would spend hundreds of billions of dollars and it would take years to complete a pipeline that would have no use after the drought ended.


24 posted on 04/06/2015 5:29:40 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: grundle

Dan from squirrel blog is also far, far away from reality.

The EPA has been blocking desalination plants since the 1980s.

Sorry Dan. As much as you wish to make it so, the Environmental Protection Agency is part of the federal government. Not the California state government.

Congratulations on taking up the issue though (however belatedly).


25 posted on 04/06/2015 5:47:31 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: grundle

I don’t know if the current EPA rules allow desal.

All that concentrated brine has to go somewhere, and the rules are it can’t go back to the source water (you can only discharge cleaner water than you take in).

That is the issue.


26 posted on 04/06/2015 5:50:53 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: grundle
Israel is using private plants with no subsidies. That is not how things work in America any more.
27 posted on 04/06/2015 5:52:57 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: combat_boots

The Western Hemisphere’s largest desalination plant will be up and running next year, just outside of San Diego.


28 posted on 04/06/2015 6:22:30 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: grundle

Santa Barbara built a desalination plant in 1991, then the rains hit, and they mothballed it in 1992, now they are reopening it and Carlsbad is building the largest desalination plant in the Western hemisphere.

In 2011 the United States, along with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Spain was among the top 4 markets for desalinated water, it isn’t like we don’t know about it, or won’t incorporate it as the market dictates.

“Despite these hurdles, however, the United States ranks fourth among markets for desalinated water behind Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Spain, according to an International Desalination Association presentation from 2011.”

http://www.bna.com/us-desalination-industry-n17179876105/


29 posted on 04/06/2015 6:24:15 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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If we could make the ice caps melt more, than that would have to produce more evaporation and rain I would think...


30 posted on 04/06/2015 6:50:55 AM PDT by uncle fenders
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To: grundle

More freshwater means more people moving in, more construction, more government, more socialism. Democrat voters become the majority when the local population density reaches 800 people per square mile. CA has an overpopulation problem, not a water problem.


31 posted on 04/06/2015 7:46:19 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: VaRepublican
How is water an inconsistent return.

As I already posted, in normal years when reservoirs are full, those water districts have enough water without buying it from a private company. So what happens to those companies then? Maybe there could be some sort of water futures system, where water districts contract long term, but that doesn't exist now. I'm just saying there could be a decade or more between droughts, so it's not as simple as just building them.

32 posted on 04/06/2015 1:35:55 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: cripplecreek

There’s a lot more to growing than just water. The Central valley has the best climate and soil of pretty much anywhere on earth.


33 posted on 04/06/2015 1:44:14 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Hugin
Recent developments in desal make it very competitive with existing water supplies.
34 posted on 04/06/2015 1:51:21 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Hugin

But mostly it has cheap illegal labor.


35 posted on 04/06/2015 1:52:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

That’s a great point - desalination would indeed slow the rising sea level caused by global warming.


36 posted on 04/06/2015 4:05:11 PM PDT by grundle
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To: Hugin

That’s a good point. Perhaps some kind of long term contract could address that issue.


37 posted on 04/06/2015 4:06:06 PM PDT by grundle
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To: combat_boots

Thanks for the link.


38 posted on 04/06/2015 4:08:11 PM PDT by grundle
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To: RayChuang88

I agree with you about using nuclear power to power desalination plants.


39 posted on 04/06/2015 4:09:07 PM PDT by grundle
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To: combat_boots

Thank you for the links.


40 posted on 04/06/2015 4:09:51 PM PDT by grundle
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