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MS: Passage of 90% Constitutional Carry Appears Likely
Gun Watch ^ | 31 March, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/01/2015 6:12:24 AM PDT by marktwain


After a rocky start, Mississippi appears ready to pass a 90% constitutional carry bill.  Bickering among second amendment supporters seemed to doom constitutional carry in the state early this year.  Hard feelings were ignited between longtime legislative supporters of the second amendment, and serious, unfounded allegations were tossed about.   But it appears that those supporting the second  amendment in the Mississippi legislature have overcome those difficulties and passed a significant reform to restore second amendment rights on Friday, 27 March, 2015.

 SB 2394  started off as an incremental reform to amend the concealed carry permit fees in Mississippi.  It became a vehicle to enact 90% constitutional carry in the state.   It appears that in the conference committee, the legislative leaders realized that all the bickering was about non-issues, and that they agreed far more than they disagreed.   So they added this sensible paragraph to the bill that had already passed the House and Senate.  From SB 2394:

(24)  No license shall be required under this section for a loaded or unloaded pistol or revolver carried in a purse, handbag, satchel, other similar bag or briefcase or fully enclosed case.
 The photograph at the top of the story is a Sneaky Pete holster designed to look much like a cell phone or tablet holster.  It has proven so popular that the company has started to produce holsters for cell phones as well.  It certainly meets the definition above.  There have long been fanny packs and holsters disguised as day planners as well.  I made and sold a number of book holsters that would also meet the definition.  It appears that SB 2394 is on the fast track.  It has been passed by the House and is expected to easily pass the Senate, according to the clarionledger.com:
The Senate is expected to approve the agreement and send it to the governor.
"Most ladies don't want to carry a gun on their hip for the world to see," said House Judiciary Chairman Andy Gipson, R-Braxton. "Men may, but ladies may not."
Governor Bryant did not waffle or hesitate about his intention to sign the bill when it reaches his desk.
Gov. Phil Bryant said he will "absolutely" sign the bill into law, and noted his wife, Deborah, might find it handy for carrying her Ruger .380.
Observers of the restoration of second amendment rights across the nation may have a difficult time deciding if Mississippi will qualify as a constitutional carry state.  Constitutional carry refers to the situation when the Bill of Rights was ratified, and there were no restrictions on the carry of arms, concealed or openly carried.

As a practical matter, the bill will bring Mississippi so close to constitutional carry as to matter very little.   The bill also reduces the fees for a concealed carry permit from $100 to $80, and eliminates the fees for active duty military personal and disabled veterans.

As John Lott has noted, any reduction of fees results in an increase of permit holders.

With a constitutional carry bill ready to go to Governor Brownback in Kansas, and another bill getting strong support in Maine, 2015 may prove to be a banner year in restoring second amendment rights, in spite of vetoes by Democrat Governors in West Virginia and Montana.


©2015 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitutionalcarry; mississippi; ms; secondamendment
If this passes, more restrictions are likely to fall next year.
1 posted on 04/01/2015 6:12:24 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

90%? What do they mean by 90%?


2 posted on 04/01/2015 6:21:56 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: null and void

They mean 90% of the loaf. Come back for the other 10% later.


3 posted on 04/01/2015 6:27:19 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

What’s the 90%? What’s the remaining 10%? I don’t get it. Even after my first cuppa.


4 posted on 04/01/2015 6:45:57 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: null and void

Mississippi has open carry without a permit. That passed last year. This bill would make remove restrictions from carrying a concealed handgun if the handgun were in a bag, purse, or other enclosed case.

That allows people to carry concealed without a permit, even if there are minor restrictions.

I call that 90 percent constitutional carry. There are only a few restrictions left, and they are likely to be removed later.


5 posted on 04/01/2015 7:22:04 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“would make remove” should be “would remove”

Just getting my first cup!


6 posted on 04/01/2015 7:23:22 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Intellectually, what is the difference between carrying concealed in a handbag or fanny pack and carrying concealed in an IWB holster?

Silly not to just allow concealed carry outright.


7 posted on 04/01/2015 9:27:10 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

Intellectually, there is little difference. Psychologically, for legilators, it was what they could agree on.

The strategy to take what can be gotten, then push for more later,is a strategy that has been working for second amendment supporters for 20 years.

25 years ago,it was common to hear people say “why are we always on defense? We need to go on offense against these gun grabbers.

Second amendment supporters did, and they are winning.


8 posted on 04/01/2015 11:27:51 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Can’t disagree there. Our own Michigan is an example of that. First it was shall issue, then removing the ban on SBRs and SBGs, then the reclassification of air guns. The latest is the removal of the county gun boards.

Incrementalism that I can support.


9 posted on 04/01/2015 11:47:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: marktwain
(24) No license shall be required under this section for a loaded or unloaded pistol or revolver carried in a purse, handbag, satchel, other similar bag or briefcase or fully enclosed case.

Looks like this one would work under the bill:


10 posted on 04/01/2015 12:52:40 PM PDT by archy
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To: marktwain

I’ve used a Sneaky Pete holster for a good while now, and the only person ever to have a clue was a police officer. We were both in line in a convenience store, and he nodded approvingly and asked (”How’s that working out for you?”)


11 posted on 04/01/2015 12:54:20 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Become a monthly donor and END FREEPATHONS!)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

I have one as well, like it much better then my IWB holster, then again it could be that one carries s ruger lcp and the other a glock 17


12 posted on 04/01/2015 12:58:41 PM PDT by Raymann
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To: archy
Absolutely! In fact, my original CZ82 holster (similar to this) would fill the bill also.


13 posted on 04/01/2015 12:58:47 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Become a monthly donor and END FREEPATHONS!)
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