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Beware Putin’s Special War in 2015
The 20 Committee ^ | 12/23/14 | staff

Posted on 12/24/2014 5:11:32 PM PST by Nachum

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1 posted on 12/24/2014 5:11:33 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 12/24/2014 5:11:59 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

Find it (the article) quite strange ... saudis and opec receive no blame. putin and his minions aren’t very intelligent, according to this article.


3 posted on 12/24/2014 5:17:31 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Nachum

Better to stop this KGB nut while he is weak, and show a strong front and try to steer Russia into the 21st century, rather than to start undoing all that Reagan accomplished, and move the world back into darkness and always on the brink of total annihilation.


4 posted on 12/24/2014 5:21:00 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

The world is already on its way back to darkness. At this point, Putin is a minor player.


5 posted on 12/24/2014 5:27:02 PM PST by dforest
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It would be smart politics to make a limited deal with Russia — we don’t need them as enemies at this point. Crimea means nothing to us, let them have it. Most of the people there are in favour. Make it clear that we won’t take the same position on the Baltic states or the rest of the Ukraine, but that we want good relations and a common front against Islam. Re-assess who we back in Syria, we got that wrong and Putin got it right.

Then move on. We have common enemies and common challenges. Anyone in the west who thinks we have any spare time or energy to bring more freedom to Russia is wasting their time. We need to bring more freedom to our own countries.

Having the academic orthodoxy death wish creeping out into mainstream society is far more dangerous than a few Russian threats that amount to nothing but whistling past the graveyard. The problem is becoming this — we ARE the graveyard.


6 posted on 12/24/2014 5:35:34 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Is it just me, or is there something wrong with political correctness? /s)
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To: dforest

If you remember the Russia before 1992, surely no one wants to allow a recreation of that, especially as darkness descends on the world, Putin is a part of the forces that are bringing darkness on the world, and God forbid that he succeed in becoming the monster that he hopes to become.


7 posted on 12/24/2014 5:36:52 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Nachum

The sanctions are working.

Putin can starve.


8 posted on 12/24/2014 5:44:07 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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it’s not the sanctions ... it’s America’s significantly increased oil production impacting the global markets ... very bad for soviet Russia ...


9 posted on 12/24/2014 6:22:41 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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Find it (the article) quite strange ... saudis

Why would you blame the Saudis for Russia's troubles. The Saudi's have done nothing to Russia. Literally.

10 posted on 12/24/2014 6:24:16 PM PST by FreeReign
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And the Saudis are pumping lots if oil.


11 posted on 12/24/2014 6:25:48 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: FreeReign

saudis and opec control the market price for oil. 2 + 2 = 4


12 posted on 12/24/2014 6:27:28 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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And the Saudis are pumping lots if oil.

The Saudis are pumping less oil in 2014 than they did in 2013.

Russia produces more oil than the Saudis.

13 posted on 12/24/2014 6:28:00 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Oliviaforever

true


14 posted on 12/24/2014 6:28:44 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: no-to-illegals

No. Read my post #13.


15 posted on 12/24/2014 6:28:48 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Nachum

Very interesting and detailed article.


16 posted on 12/24/2014 6:30:30 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: FreeReign

are you saying russia controls the price of oil?


17 posted on 12/24/2014 6:30:47 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Peter ODonnell

You make a good point in post 6. I wonder, though, if it isn’t too late for that given the economic situation Russia is in. Too many mindless war-mongers are gleefully celebrating and consequently raising the anger level in Russia. There is a point conflicts get to where revenge becomes the number one motive.


18 posted on 12/24/2014 6:35:06 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: no-to-illegals
are you saying russia controls the price of oil?

I'm saying that SA hasn't contributed to oil price decreases. If anything their production is slightly off in 2014 from 2013.

I'm saying why should SA cut oil production further to help Russia when Russia produces more oil than SA.

19 posted on 12/24/2014 6:38:30 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

one more question ... Does the U.S. of A. set the price of oil?


20 posted on 12/24/2014 6:40:42 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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