Posted on 10/17/2014 4:33:53 AM PDT by marktwain
A week ago I wrote an article about the unicorn event of an open carrier having his firearm stolen by an armed robber. It is only the second event that has been documented. Numerous pundits sided with those who want their political opponents disarmed. An important detail was left out of the story.
Multnomah County, where the robbery took place, requires that openly carried guns must be unloaded. The ordinance makes it an offense to possess a loaded magazine or speed loader if you do not have a concealed carry permit. As the open carrier was barely old enough to apply for a CCW permit, it is highly likely that he did not have one yet. None was mentioned in the news coverage. From oregonfirearms.org:
Although the County website often removes or changes URLs, the most recent one containing the ordinance can be seen here.
While there will be more on this in coming days, including reports from OFF members who attended the hearing, here is the summary:
Open loaded carry will now be illegal in Multnomah County for non-licensees.
Only security guards who work at banks will be allowed to be armed. Armed guards elsewhere would be prohibited (Apparently much of the “gun violence” is being committed by security guards.)A severe infringement on the second amendment legally required that the firearm owned by the victim was not capable of being fired.
It will now be unlawful for a person without a CHL to have a loaded magazine or speed loader in any public place, including your car, anywhere in the county.
Might as well carry a brick.
Should be able to carry concealed period.
Considering that there are more good guys than bad guys, we’d be better off if everyone was armed at all times.
Worse, openly carry a valuable object.
Not only must your open carry firearm be unloaded you must also carry loose ammunition.
So there you are walking down the street with your unloaded gun on your hip for all to see.
A certain ethnic bad guy walks up and puts a gun in your face and says give me your wallet and while you’re at it give me your gun.
Both you and the bad guy know your gun is unloaded so you say: Do you mind waiting while I load my gun so I may properly defend myself?
The certain ethnic bad guy being the typical courteous thug says: Oh no, not at all my good man, by all means load your weapon sir and we shall have at it.
Liberals seem to think that the above is how the real world works.
If you cannot carry a loaded magazine or speed loader (does this include loaded clips as for Garands and such?) then why in the heck would a person carry at all? Carrying an unloaded weapon without any means of loading it is just an invitation to get your firearm stolen.
The ordinance is worded so that you can carry a loaded firearm if you have a concealed carry permit.
In the original story, it said the open carrier was showing the newly purchased pistol to his cousin. This occurred at 2:30 a.m., in an urban area.
Carry concealed and shoot said robber in the back as he leaves. Or he robs someone else why you sneak up and dome him.
No muss, no fuss. (Well, not entirely true, brain matter does stink...)
“Carry concealed and shoot said robber in the back as he leaves. “
SERIOUSLY? you do that and you will be charged with murder because, with his back toward you, he is no longer a threat no matter how pissed off you are at getting robbed.
Citizen’s arrest, the violent felony was committed in your presence.
Was the robber still not armed, with demonstrable ability to rob others, posing a threat to other citizens and was law enforcement there to take the situation in hand?
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