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Why did the stock market plummet?
THE REFORMED BROKER ^ | 10/09/2014 | Joshua M Brown

Posted on 10/10/2014 8:23:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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Why did the stock market plummet more than 330 points?

I could give you any one of several answers but they won’t actually help you. Because this is the wrong question.

The right question is to ask why it went up an almost equivalent amount yesterday. And the answer to that is people are out of their f***ing minds.

They’re nostalgic for the sentiment-driven, Fed-fueled, multiple expansion market of 2013 and they haven’t yet accepted the fact it was a once (maybe twice) in a lifetime thing. The conditions that were in place to set up what happened in 2013 were the following:

1. Everyone was underinvested in stocks, overly invested in cash, gold and bonds.

2. The Fed was furiously pumping dollars directly into the investment markets, fueling all manner of buybacks, IPOs and raised dividends.

3. Sentiment was absurdly pessimistic, with Wall Street, institutional investment managers and retail players negative on equities.

4. US companies were consistently smashing expectations and raising guidance for the future.

5. The rest of the world began reporting improving economic fundamentals.

That was then. I documented the shit out of this phenomenon that entire year, until my fingers bled from blogging.

This year, many of those factors are non-existent or on the wane.

Consider:

1. Investors are no longer underinvested in stocks. According to the Federal Reserve’s Flow of Funds report, we’re back at all-time peaks (last seen in 2000, 2007) for household corporate equity (stocks, mutual funds, corporate bonds) participation.

2. The Fed is walking away. Later this month, the taper of stimulus will have been concluded. After shoveling a trillion dollars a year at the investment markets, they are retiring from the QE business and merely pledging a low Fed Funds rate in lieu of stimulus. Investor demand must now stand on its own and you better believe things are going to adjust. Buybacks are expected to slow markedly from their torrid pace. It already began in the most recent quarter. IPO volume (in transactions, not dollars) has already dropped.

3. Sentiment from week to week has been volatile but the big picture is that people are back in again. All you need to do is to look at the inflows to Vanguard’s passive stock index products and the record levels of 401(k) buying to know that. Never listen to a survey, watch what their hands are doing, not what their lips are saying.

4. US companies are not smashing anything. Their beats have become more modest. Their warnings have become more grave. There are many high profile blue chip companies that have already thrown in the towel on 2014, most notably Target and Ford. There’s plenty of good news on the earnings front (mostly in tech, select consumer discretionary), but there is less surprisingly good news overall. Expectations are everything. We’re already expecting a lot.

5. The rest of the world is not only not improving, it’s becoming a disaster. Europe is looking at a continent-wide triple-dip recession. An absolute absurdity, and yet here it is. Japan is going nowhere, China’s slow-mo unwind continues apace and the commodity collapse / dollar rally is killing off any hope of strength around the rest of the emerging world.

And so with the five factors that had driven the rally since 2012 no longer in our favor, we consolidate and thrash around a bit awaiting the next set of catalysts. Maybe a great holiday shopping season thanks to plunging energy costs. Perhaps – at long last – a meaningful uptick in wages for our now tighter labor market. Maybe European QE resets the board game there and sparks les esprits animaux. All of these things are possible – they’re just not happening yet.

And so volatility ticks up and the crowd second-guesses everything in their portfolios.

Welcome to the next phase. The old phase has been over for awhile, I’m sorry that nobody rang a bell or hung a sign.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: economy; stockmarket
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1 posted on 10/10/2014 8:23:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Why did the stock market plummet?

Because we've got the best economic recovery in history going.

Obama said so.

2 posted on 10/10/2014 8:27:11 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

The individual investor has as much chance of making money in the stock market as he has in the lottery. Buy things, not paper.


3 posted on 10/10/2014 8:29:26 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why did the stock market plummet?

Greed and manipulation!


4 posted on 10/10/2014 8:29:29 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because Obola has destroyed America


5 posted on 10/10/2014 8:39:47 AM PDT by Viennacon (Obola is a muslim terrorist & his viral illegals need to be deported NOW!)
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To: mountainlion


6 posted on 10/10/2014 8:44:58 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Why did the stock market plummet?

It hasn't yet! What you have seen thus far is mild compared to what's coming! When it all shakes out the Dow will be closer to 700 than 17000.

7 posted on 10/10/2014 8:50:39 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: SeekAndFind
Unfortunately, for a REAL recovery, we need both business regulatory reform and a major reform in the income tax code.
8 posted on 10/10/2014 8:53:06 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Kartographer

Greed is good except for the little guy.


9 posted on 10/10/2014 8:55:04 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Could it be that the Fed is correcting the corrections by shoving huge amounts of new money into the banks to flood into the stock market? That would result in some pretty wild swings as the market insists on its correction.


10 posted on 10/10/2014 8:55:48 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: SeekAndFind

Because it is racist


11 posted on 10/10/2014 8:56:49 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tactical Firearms,Katy Tx: "the two enemies of guns, rust and politicians")
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To: RayChuang88
Unfortunately, for a REAL recovery, we need both business regulatory reform and a major reform in the income tax code.

No we don't! We have "reformed" the Marxist income tax code to death What we need to do is to throw that onto the ash heap of history where it properly belongs and replace it with something much more in keeping with what our founders intended! A point of retail sale only sales tax on new goods and services!

12 posted on 10/10/2014 9:10:24 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: SeekAndFind

EBOLA.


13 posted on 10/10/2014 9:11:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Bigun

Agree big government has a noose around the neck of businesses choking to ensue.


14 posted on 10/10/2014 9:49:12 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: mountainlion
'Cause they're sheep, and sheep get slaughtered.
15 posted on 10/10/2014 9:53:30 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Cause they’re sheep, and sheep get slaughtered.

Reminds me of the story of the sheep following the Judas Goat to they slaughter.


16 posted on 10/10/2014 10:16:29 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Bigun
While I do agree (see my tagline), we should right now enact the flat tax Steve Forbes proposed in 1996 as a transitional tax for around three years so we can get into place the mechanism for generating revenue from FairTax, then repeal the 16th Amendment and replace the income tax with FairTax.
17 posted on 10/10/2014 10:22:13 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Bigun
When it all shakes out the Dow will be closer to 700

At full liquidity the Dow would be somewhere between 4000-5000. Don't scare people needlessly.

18 posted on 10/10/2014 10:23:51 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: dfwgator

You mean OBOLA


19 posted on 10/10/2014 10:24:53 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Everything I needed to know about Islam was written on 11 Sep 2001)
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To: catfish1957

What’s the difference?


20 posted on 10/10/2014 10:32:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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