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How Does Wilson Fire Six Shots, While Getting Beaten, Without Gunshot Residue on Michael Brown?
The Huffington Post ^ | September 1, 2014 | H. A. Goodman

Posted on 09/01/2014 8:44:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: DoodleDawg
"By the same token, if the evidence clearly showed that Officer Wilson was in the right then it would have been released by now to show that the Ferguson PD was the crack police force they want people to think they are."

The Ferguson police have less than nothing to do with releasing of evidence or doing anything else in this incident. The state's attorney, the governor and the US Department of Justice hold all the cards in this case.

41 posted on 09/01/2014 9:29:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My understanding is that if a target ix 6 feet away or more, they wouldn’t get residue.


42 posted on 09/01/2014 9:30:05 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So much for the presumption of innocence.

The loons keep setting up a construct in which a cop can only use his weapon in the final millisecond prior to certain death.


43 posted on 09/01/2014 9:30:41 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: DoodleDawg; HerrBlucher

“By the same token, if the evidence clearly showed that Officer Wilson was in the right then it would have been released by now to show that the Ferguson PD was the crack police force they want people to think they are.”

No.

The grand jury reviews the shoot and then issues a no-bill.

The PD will not release the full report as it is used in the grand jury proceedings and even if they did release the report indicating innocence, then there are many that would holler, whimper, whine, squeal and cry about a police cover-up.

Can’t win.

Release the report and be accused of trying to affect the grand jury and engaging in a cover-up, or let the system work and be accused of hiding something indicating guilt or less than seller actions.

Agendas are powerful drivers that limit one’s ability to think rationally or clearly.


44 posted on 09/01/2014 9:36:03 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not sure what to think about this.

Let us stipulate that the local police department may not be the sharpest tools in the shed. I don’t fault them for that, really. Just sayin’. This whole episode has clearly overwhelmed them. And the folks who claim “militarization” of the police force—if this had NOT overwhelmed them, then they would have had to be ready for serious civil unrest at all times = militarization. So I don’t see how a rational person takes stock of every event of the last 2-3 weeks (including rumors and uncorroborated Sharptonisms and whatever convenient omissions might be made) and with the benefit of hindsight claims the right to armchair quarterback the whole thing. To be clear, I am neither a 100% supporter nor detractor of “the police”.

But no doubt, they (the local PD) have since pre-Michael Brown acquired skilled legal and perhaps PR representation and they are of course smart to do so. It is IMO in their interest to release snippets of information so that the “fog of war” starts to impinge upon the self-assumed righteousness of the feral crowd. If the rioter’s side is going to work to poison the well, it’s fair game to chuck it right back at them.

Indeed, did we not learn this with GWB? To sit passively while the other side throws dirtbomb after dirtbomb may have some aspects of acting “above the fray” but the cumulative effect of doing nothing in the face of relentless attack is a negative.


45 posted on 09/01/2014 9:37:55 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: DoodleDawg

That is why I said “likely.”

And if you just committed a crime, it is LIKELY that will shape your actions: http://www.lawofficer.com/article/lifeline-training/open-letter-captain-ronald-s-j

(p.s.—is that you, UC?)


46 posted on 09/01/2014 9:38:15 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: lacrew

“The loons keep setting up a construct in which a cop can only use his weapon in the final millisecond prior to certain death.”

Very true, well said.


47 posted on 09/01/2014 9:38:46 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Jonty30

‘My understanding is that if a target ix 6 feet away or more, they wouldn’t get residue.’

Here is some info that may or may not be helpful. Either way, it’s interesting:

“Tests show that people standing within 3 feet to the side of a shooter may have GSR on their hands, whereas those standing 10 or more feet in the same direction typically will not.6 This can vary with the type of gun and ammunition, number of shots fired, and the environment of the shooting. Gunshot primer residue also can travel downrange with each firing of a weapon.7 Long guns, like rifles and shotguns, tend to leave less GSR on shooters than handguns.”

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/may_2011/The%20Current%20Status%20of%20GSR%20Examinations


48 posted on 09/01/2014 9:41:43 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Hulka

It is good to read an authoritative and well written article confirming something that what most of us know through simple common sense.


49 posted on 09/01/2014 9:50:01 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HUFFPO forgot to add assaulting the store clerk to shoplifting followed shortly by assaulting a police offider in his patrol car causing the discharge of a weapon.


50 posted on 09/01/2014 10:20:21 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gun Shot Residue (GSR) is a function of distance. The shooter gets GSR on him, but the perp may not. To get stippling from a gunshot, the individual must be within 18 inches. Further away, not so. We do not know at what range officer Wilson first engaged Mr. Brown, but I can just about guarantee it was from more than 18 inches. No, Brown will not show GSR, but Wilson will have it because he fired his sidearm.
51 posted on 09/01/2014 10:55:43 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Senator_Blutarski
The author is willfully ignorant. Politics trump all for the perpetual victims.

Best, most succinct answer. 100% correct.

52 posted on 09/01/2014 11:05:25 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: cripplecreek

With him admitting Wilson was being beaten, his fantastical story is blown out of the water.


53 posted on 09/01/2014 11:12:25 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Travis McGee

“Novelist Stephen Hunter does know a lot about guns.”

A lot of people were posting similar the day the autopsy photos came out .... weeks before SH wrote it.


54 posted on 09/01/2014 11:14:52 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

G s r only travels 5 feet tops and even at 5 feet it’s hard to detect. A charging assailant can cover five feet in a split second. This guy is a liberal moron talking to look good in the eyes of other liberals.


55 posted on 09/01/2014 11:27:36 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They have spent too much money on this coverage and now have to pump more $$ in to keep it alive.

The rest of the country has moved on and is watching much more important stories.

They are, perhaps unknowingly, lowering themselves to the level of Al Sharpton, author of the Tawana Brawley hoax.

56 posted on 09/01/2014 12:00:58 PM PDT by capt. norm
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pick a better source of news.


57 posted on 09/01/2014 12:03:32 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, Friend of mine showed me the distance at which you must start to fire a shot in order not to be overwhelmed by an attacker. Seems to me it was over 20 feet. This poor, sweet, soon to be college educated gentle giant was a threat as soon as he started toward Wilson and more so the closer he came. He didn’t have to be next to Wilson to be a threat.


58 posted on 09/01/2014 1:00:42 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article is all weasel words and juvenile emotional appeal trying to cover the facts with a racist blindfold.


59 posted on 09/01/2014 1:08:14 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: Lake Living

As I’ve been saying, these people defending Brown and excoriating Wilson are not interested in justice, they want a lynching, and they fail to see the irony.


60 posted on 09/01/2014 1:13:47 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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