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New York Times: Ugly for Americans Against Illegal Immigration to Wave American Flags, Chant 'USA'
Breitbart's Big Journalism ^ | July 4, 2014 | Tony Lee

Posted on 07/05/2014 8:18:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On the day before the Fourth of July, the New York Times went out of its way to show its disgust for Americans against illegal immigration in Murrieta, California who turned away buses of illegal immigrants for, of all things, waving American flags and chanting "USA!"

"Nobody was even being released in Murrieta," the Times' editorial board wrote on Thursday. "But the mayor urged residents to complain, and in a pageant of ugliness, dozens took action: They waved flags, screamed 'U.S.A.!' and turned three buses back."

The Times' editorial urged Obama to "go big" on executive actions by granting amnesty to the parents of so-called anchor babies -- children who are born in the country to illegal immigrant parents.

The paper did not mention that pro-amnesty protesters in Murrieta chanted "Viva La Raza!" and waved Mexican flags. They also did not explain why Murrieta's residents, like those across the country, were incensed that the federal government, without notice, tried to force them to take care of illegal immigrants who may be criminals and carrying diseases. At least four illegal immigrants who were on the buses had to be hospitalized with scabies and fevers....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; childillegals; demagogicparty; illegalsinvasion; immigration; memebuilding; msm; murrieta; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; obama; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills
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1 posted on 07/05/2014 8:18:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The True History of the Southwest,” by Matthew Bracken, 2014

The fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest are staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What is the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn hundreds of them alive in their dwellings for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda fable.

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow the even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish colonial rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn and financially insolvent newborn government in Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the nascent Mexican government. Under Spanish colonial rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indian attacks. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.

For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in the power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish colonial era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.

Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the Spanish inhabitants of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest never considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from Spanish directly to American. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call a Hispanic native of New Mexico a “Mexican.”

So how long did these self-proclaimed (but newborn), free and independent Mexican governments have even nominal jurisdiction over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which time they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest never transferred their loyalty from Madrid to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican governments was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.

Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For over 160 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, (all the while full American citizens), have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc. of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in endemic graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico.

And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are supposed to let any number of Mexicans from Chiapas, Michoacán or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there? From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? (2014 update: Add the citizens of Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and any other nation who can reach our unguarded border.) Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The Spanish in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade with America.

In summary, no current inhabitants of Mexico (or Guatemala, etc.) have a claim on even one single inch of the American Southwest. Not one single citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the United States to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of. Not one. They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.

It’s time Americans learned the true history of our Southwest, as a counter to the currently prevalent “Aztlan” fairy tales put out by “La Raza” (The Race), “the Brown Berets of Aztlan,” “MEChA” (the Student Movement for Aztlan, whose very symbol is a lit “mecha” or fuse on a dynamite bomb), and other radical (and usually openly communist) anti-American groups.

2014 post script: The U.S. Constitution, in Article 4, Section 4, still mandates that the executive branch—President Barack Obama—must protect the states against invasion. Instead of protecting the states from invasion, our rogue president and his gangster henchmen are now intentionally and with forethought laying open our national borders, and are encouraging and assisting the invaders.

How is this not treason?


2 posted on 07/05/2014 8:18:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Send all of the claim jumpers to live in the Times Building.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 8:21:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

The United Nations would probably call that inhumane punishment.


4 posted on 07/05/2014 8:23:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s ugly for homosexuals to wave rainbow flags and shout “I’m proud!”

The Times agrees with me — right???


5 posted on 07/05/2014 8:24:25 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Up yours, NYT.


6 posted on 07/05/2014 8:24:43 PM PDT by madison10
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To: ClearCase_guy

The left has gone full retard


7 posted on 07/05/2014 8:24:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Travis McGee
its treason in black and white

"the U.S. Constitution, in Article 4, Section 4"

"the U.S. Constitution, in Article 4, Section 4"



quoted here for those with attention deficit disorders
8 posted on 07/05/2014 8:25:04 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When Lefties protest, they’re “heroic.” When non-Lefties protest, they’re “ugly.”


9 posted on 07/05/2014 8:25:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: GeronL
The left has gone full retard

And they are utterly shameless about it.

10 posted on 07/05/2014 8:25:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: MeshugeMikey
U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,

and shall protect each of them against invasion


11 posted on 07/05/2014 8:26:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Did they also condemn the burning of the US flag by the pro-amnesty crowd?

probably not


12 posted on 07/05/2014 8:27:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, send all of the claim jumpers to live in the NYC UN buildings.


13 posted on 07/05/2014 8:28:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t see how this can end at all peacefully.


14 posted on 07/05/2014 8:28:40 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When Josef Stalin, the communist monster dicktator, called the NYT and its’ readers his “useful idiots”, he was dead-on accurate.


15 posted on 07/05/2014 8:29:04 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, Barry. Issue an executive order instead of sneaking around like a coward and ‘backdooring’ these aliens, while lying about deporting them. Then see what happens you POS.


16 posted on 07/05/2014 8:30:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Partisan Media Shills ping.

Video Reveals Thousands of Illegal Immigrants Arriving At Border, Getting Free Bus Tickets Into US
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3176410/posts


17 posted on 07/05/2014 8:31:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, but I’m not going to let the Marxist loving NY Times set the terms of this debate.


18 posted on 07/05/2014 8:31:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: MeshugeMikey
It won't.


19 posted on 07/05/2014 8:32:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish I could send a busload to every loud mouthed liberal to deal with. No assistance, they need to totally support and be responsible for each and every one. Criminal issues, health issues, you name it.

We have people in this country that are in desperate situations but illegals are the darlings of the left, our own people can pound sand for all the liberals care.


20 posted on 07/05/2014 8:33:24 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Travis McGee

hmmmm those look like gringo built homes....and...if Im not mistaken that photo shows appears to have been taken in southern California

LA County.....Id bet


21 posted on 07/05/2014 8:37:59 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

The simple solution to all of this is to send these ILLEGALS to the Hamptons. They have big houses, plenty of land, and money enough to handle em.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 8:38:04 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s The New York Times, people!

What do you expect from a bunch of America hating, left-wing, worthless buckets of excrement?

No self-respecting bird would poop on that leftist rag if it’s cage was lined with that so-called “newspaper.”


23 posted on 07/05/2014 8:39:27 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

time for tar and feathers for the media!!


24 posted on 07/05/2014 8:39:32 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Travis McGee

oh look isnt this touching

wait until they kill the GOOSE..That Laid The Golden Egg!!!

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0002/0801/products/1151_large.jpg?v=1194390422


25 posted on 07/05/2014 8:39:40 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
New York Times: Ugly for Americans Against Illegal Immigration to Wave American Flags, Chant 'USA'

I have no doubt that the Nytimese backed 110 percent the Mexican flag waving and hatred toward Amercians when..

Prop 187 (1994) was "the last gasp of white America in California." ~ Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party.

So how come there was no outcry when the Mexican cartel was screaming for whites born here to get out.

In fact Republicans Jack Kemp, Jeb Bush, and William Bennett were among the many ruling elites coming here to California to tell us whites to go to hell.

26 posted on 07/05/2014 8:40:13 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: GeronL

Just remember the names as did the French after WW2 with the collaborators there. After the collapse you’ll know who to let starve ;)


27 posted on 07/05/2014 8:42:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We all need to call out these cowardly news freaks. It’s now an editorial board? One reporter afraid to put their name on it?

Find out who writes this crap, protest outside their offices and homes with signs that say,

“TAKE JUST FIVE UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS INTO YOUR HOME, FEED THEM, CLOTHE THEM, EDUCATE THEM! SET AN EXAMPLE FOR US UNCARING CRUEL AMERICANS. MAKE IT PERSONAL!!


28 posted on 07/05/2014 8:44:29 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Norm Lenhart



29 posted on 07/05/2014 8:44:33 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: tumblindice
Yeah, Barry. Issue an executive order instead of sneaking around like a coward and ‘backdooring’ these aliens, while lying about deporting them. Then see what happens you POS.

What's going to happen? Nothing. Unless, of course, you know something that the rest of us don't.

30 posted on 07/05/2014 8:44:51 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: Norm Lenhart

Most of the MSM and bureaucracy and unions are the enemy.

Not sure it is possible to overthrow them. But maybe we can free part of the country.


31 posted on 07/05/2014 8:45:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: All

pro immigration and gun control advocates are absolutely in hysterics right now. something is up but I cannot put my finger on it.


32 posted on 07/05/2014 8:48:46 PM PDT by willywill
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To: Travis McGee
McVeigh parked his truck in front of the wrong building.

NYT has been asking for it since the Civil War.

They agitated against a peaceful solution after Secession; for conquest of the south; propagandized for the murder of the Sons of the Founders, and then for setting loose the slaves in the heartland instead of repatriating them back to their homeland.

Their blood lust and quest to destroy the USA is relentless.

In short,they are responsible for the murder of over a million Americans by the Federal government and by descendants of freed slaves, and our coming third world status.

A 150 year record of relentless smear attacks and propaganda against real Americans.

Their day of reckoning has been past due for a long time.

33 posted on 07/05/2014 8:54:09 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

34 posted on 07/05/2014 9:00:02 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: softwarecreator

The NYT is criticizing Americans for “waving US flags” and “chanting USA” ... on the 4th of July.
Ever heard of V.O. Key’s analogy of the American public as a “sleeping giant”?
Well, Americans recently backed down the feds at a ranch in Nevada and they just did it again in Murrieta.
Something’s happening, FRiend. I don’t claim to know what it is, but I know when something extraordinary is happening, that’s all.


35 posted on 07/05/2014 9:02:12 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear New York Times,

Ef you.

Most Sincerely,

L


36 posted on 07/05/2014 9:03:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Travis McGee

It is treason indeed


37 posted on 07/05/2014 9:03:49 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: All

I just recently was in the tuny European country of Andorra.
To immigrate to Andorra you have to own property there for 25 years.

That is a bet extreme but better than letting everyone or anyone come in


38 posted on 07/05/2014 9:06:31 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it’s “ugly” and offensive for the NYT to print their paper in English!


39 posted on 07/05/2014 9:07:24 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: madison10
Up yours, NYT.

Roger that. F those traitorous bastards.

40 posted on 07/05/2014 9:17:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may you be screwed by the fickle finger of fate)
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To: tumblindice
Something’s happening, FRiend. I don’t claim to know what it is, but I know when something extraordinary is happening, that’s all.

Hope I didn't come off as challenging you ... just tired of watching this POS stomp all over our constitution and no one in a position of power does anything about it.

There is a "feelng" going around, I agree with you, and, like you, I'm not sure what it is (yet). I guess I am just a little tired of people saying things like "write your congresman/senator". My senators here in Michigan are Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow. MY congressman? Sanders Levin!! I would get more satisfaction writing to my dog.

41 posted on 07/05/2014 9:20:49 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: Travis McGee

Inconvenient facts history will be duly ignored.


42 posted on 07/05/2014 9:22:45 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The New York Times is in favor of people coming here in violation of our immigration laws.

Doesn’t that make them co-conspirators?


43 posted on 07/05/2014 9:28:40 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: softwarecreator

I’m still waiting to hear back from mine, a conservative who replaced Mike Pence. Usually he’s quick with some boilerplate.
Yeah, something’s up.


44 posted on 07/05/2014 9:28:56 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet the slimes has no trouble at all with the illegals waving the mexican flag and chanting viva la raza!


45 posted on 07/05/2014 9:45:10 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

F#CK THE TIMES, both NY and LA.


46 posted on 07/05/2014 10:01:52 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope a bus driver trolls Mark Zuckerberg and dumps a bunch of illegals on is doorstep.


47 posted on 07/05/2014 10:13:23 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Travis McGee

Very well said and documented. Thank you. Truth to lies is what it will take. Say it over and over.


48 posted on 07/05/2014 10:27:39 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: All

“How is this not treason?”

Only when it’s revolution, and when I say that, I mean that revolution removes the consequences of the treason (not the actual treason).

So how do people stop a revolution in progress?

Counter-revolution. The foundation must be adherence to the Constitution at the deepest possible level, otherwise, the revolution might just continue under different direction.

Should the revolution be stopped?

Yes, unless you want to be on a par with Mexico in about ten to twenty years.


49 posted on 07/05/2014 11:07:38 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Sectarian warfare -- no dog in that hunt)
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To: SoConPubbie

Notice the use of the word “illegal?” They are supporting lawlessness.


50 posted on 07/05/2014 11:33:17 PM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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