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Ancient Earth Remnant Is Inside Earth, Study Says
The Guardian Liberty Voice ^ | June 28, 2014 | Gregory Baskin

Posted on 06/28/2014 6:53:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A team from Harvard University presented a study this month that remnants from an ancient Earth exists, right now, inside contemporary Earth. The group believes that their comparisons of isotopic ratios of noble gases from materials deep inside Earth with those near the surface provide testimony that the deep-down material is actually from the Earth that existed before its massive collision with another planet. That immense impact – the largest in geologic history – is what many believe led to creation of the Moon.

The currently favored theory about how the Moon originated says that it was formed 4.5 billion years ago when Earth collided with something enormous. However, this theory also states that the heat generated by such a collision would have been so great as to melt the entirety of Earth, even before some of the debris had a chance to spin off to create the Moon.

Such an impact and its related energy would have been enormous and Sujoy Mukhopadhyay, a Harvard associate professor and leader of the research team, says the the energy released would have been enough to turn the whole planet to liquid. Critically, however, he went on to say that such energy was not distributed evenly throughout the ancient pre-Earth planet. A major portion of the hemisphere that took the impact “would probably have been completely vaporized,” he said, but the other hemisphere would have been somehow shielded and thus “not have undergone complete melting.”

Mukhopadhyay and his group presented their work at the Goldschmidt geochemistry conference in Sacramento, California. Conference organizers describe the gathering as “the prime forum for all recent developments in Geochemistry and related fields.” It was there that the team announced it had uncovered evidence not only that much of Earth had indeed melted as a result of the collision but also that an even more ancient Earth still exists within the mantle of contemporary Earth.

The team recognized that the differences between the isotope ratios in different areas of the Earth required explanation. According to the study, remnants of the ancient Earth that existed before the current still survive. This implies that, despite the incredible drama of the impact event, a thorough mixing of the mantle’s magma did not occur. The idea that such a cataclysmic event did not completely homogenize Planet Earth challenges some of the assumptions about Earth’s formation, as well as the dynamics of such gargantuan impacts. Mukhopadhyay says that if the theory is correct, “then we may be seeing echoes of the ancient Earth, from a time before the collision.”

Richard Carlson, a past president of the conference’s organizer, the Geochemical Society, characterizes the findings of the study as “exciting.” He notes that it builds on existing evidence that some major parts of Earth’s composition were created out of extreme violence. The study provides “a new look at the physical processes by which this can occur.”

The team from Harvard compared noble gas isotope ratios from Earth’s mantle to ratios closer to Earth’s surface. Specific findings showed that the 3He to 22Ne ratio from above is much higher than the same ratio from obtained from deep-mantle samples. An additional ratio, 129-Xenon to 120-Xenon, provided further confirmation when, once again, measurements showed lower ratios from deep inside Earth than those found near its surface. The 129-Xenon that came from the ancient Earth section informed the scientists that the remnant material had been formed before the current Earth, as early as the first 100 million years of the planet’s history.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; earth; fantasy; lunarorigin; moon; science; sujoymukhopadhyay
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1 posted on 06/28/2014 6:53:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: P-Marlowe

Fits nicely with the hollow earth theory!


2 posted on 06/28/2014 7:01:42 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

4.5 billion years ago? The entire article/study is pure spculation, nothing more.


3 posted on 06/28/2014 7:04:03 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

4 posted on 06/28/2014 7:05:00 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

5 posted on 06/28/2014 7:06:40 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Fungi

What about 4.5 billion years ago?


6 posted on 06/28/2014 7:07:07 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: RightGeek

Beet me to it!


7 posted on 06/28/2014 7:08:29 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv; Salamander

Velikovsky Ping


8 posted on 06/28/2014 7:09:23 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Fungi

You did see the word “Harvard” didn’t you? They’re never wrong!


9 posted on 06/28/2014 7:10:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the professional hunters of the abominable snowman told me that the goal of their activities was to convert the earth’s human population to Atheism—a statement that he wouldn’t have made to journalists.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 7:11:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: BurningOak
Nice handle, what Quercus species would that be? Well, what about it?
11 posted on 06/28/2014 7:12:01 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it is kinda cool, not sure if I buy the conclusions, but the data gives us a nice mystery and is open to fun speculation.


12 posted on 06/28/2014 7:12:47 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: RightGeek

Yeah, I was going to say they made a documentary about this called “Journey to the center of the Earth.” I thought this was old news. :-)


13 posted on 06/28/2014 7:12:58 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the big impact theory is true, the ancient earth would just about have to be in the earth and to a lesser extent in the moon.


14 posted on 06/28/2014 7:18:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Admiral Byrd was right!


15 posted on 06/28/2014 7:19:13 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A team from Harvard University presented a study this month that remnants from an ancient Earth exists, right now, inside contemporary Earth.

Ruined by liberalism, no doubt,

16 posted on 06/28/2014 7:19:23 PM PDT by untenured
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Harvard was established by a Christian minister and their symbol spells out the word “veritas” meaning truth. Truth is not the objective anymore.
17 posted on 06/28/2014 7:20:18 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Admiral Byrd was right!


18 posted on 06/28/2014 7:21:30 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hollow earth photo: Agartha  the 'Hollow Earth Theory' Agaethaworldinsideearth.jpg
19 posted on 06/28/2014 7:21:48 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An interesting hypothesis, but I can personally think of other reasons to explain the discrepancies, but I doubt mine would suffice.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 7:22:27 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Fungi

IT is conjecture, base in a preconceived idea. Then research to see if you can form the data to fit your notion.

He making an interesting point, and it may work out mathematically but then reality intrudes and it begets the question: What are the statistically probabilities of such an event occurring in the manner described....

Rapidly approaching nil.

Nice try though, good Doctor.


21 posted on 06/28/2014 7:23:04 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Earth is the only planet in our solar system to have a plate tectonics system. Something has allowed the interior of the earth to retain sufficient heat for this to work. We are larger than the other rocky planets who no longer exhibit volcanics though the did do so (Venus and Mars) earlier in their histories. Some of the moons of Saturn and Jupiter exhibit similar effects to tectonics but not quite due to the influence of the gas giants.

Some geologists believe the extra heat / energy of our moon creating collision gave us the extra energy to create an ongoing plate tectonic system.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 7:23:12 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Gamecock

btw, whatever happened to that ‘hollow earth’ expedition anyway?


23 posted on 06/28/2014 7:24:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: JimSEA

Aren’t Jupiter and Saturn dwarf suns that never ignited, according to some scientists?


24 posted on 06/28/2014 7:27:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Well said!


25 posted on 06/28/2014 7:27:42 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: NormsRevenge

The Nazis and aliens drove them off. Don’t you ever watch the History Channel?


26 posted on 06/28/2014 7:27:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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27 posted on 06/28/2014 7:29:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Fungi; BurningOak

Quercus Ardens.


28 posted on 06/28/2014 7:29:25 PM PDT by Rodamala
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29 posted on 06/28/2014 7:30:46 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: MNnice
settled science... right? 8^)
30 posted on 06/28/2014 7:31:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Rodamala

No such species.


31 posted on 06/28/2014 7:34:59 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

huh,, that’s the channel that has american nosepickers, pawn my junk and many more shows? I seen most of the old history stuff anyway.. so reckun it don’t make much difference.

as to the occult and otherworldly connections to Nazis and aliens, who knows maybe this is the original earth them aryan fellas raised so much stink over.


32 posted on 06/28/2014 7:35:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: familyop

“One of the professional hunters of the abominable snowman told me that the goal of their activities was to convert the earth’s human population to Atheism...”

The goal of the abominable snowman is to convert the earth’s human population to atheism?

(LOL)


33 posted on 06/28/2014 7:36:48 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Fungi

I have no idea what you just wrote...


34 posted on 06/28/2014 7:37:55 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: Ouderkirk
What are the statistically probabilities of such an event occurring in the manner described....

... again and again and again for each planet that we know of that has a moon(s)?

35 posted on 06/28/2014 7:38:47 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s always what I heard. At least when I was in high school a couple thousand years ago, or so it seems.


36 posted on 06/28/2014 7:39:41 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Fungi
From the book "Darwin's Ghost" by Steve jones ... Page 195.

"We live not a hundred million years but four thousand five hundred million years since the Earth was spun from dust and rock around the sun. The evidence comes not from our planet but from its satellite. The Moon flew off its parent after a giant impact. Because it stayed small, cold and undisturbed it gives a better picture of the past than does its parent. A quick trip by the Apollo XI mission was enough to date it. The Earth's turmoil makes it harder to trace its own origin. It's oldest rocks, found in Greenland and Western Australia are just under four billion years old."

37 posted on 06/28/2014 7:40:09 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Fungi

Oh OK. Need to brush up on my Latin.


38 posted on 06/28/2014 7:40:25 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: Gamecock

39 posted on 06/28/2014 7:43:18 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: BurningOak

Quercus Ardens. If you knew what you were saying, the specific epithet would not be capitalized and the entire generic name would be italicized as per convention. Just a point in the grand scheme of things, I guess. No big deal but at least be believable.


40 posted on 06/28/2014 7:45:24 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Gamecock

I figure a Tootsie Roll center but I haven’t tested my hypothesis.


41 posted on 06/28/2014 7:50:44 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: OldNavyVet
About the oldest rocks, a lie learned in college from the same guy that taught me ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny—a complete and utter lie which most of them knew no better as they were indoctrinated.
42 posted on 06/28/2014 7:58:09 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: cripplecreek

Did the big bang cause the big impact ?


43 posted on 06/28/2014 8:02:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Fungi
4.5 billion years ago? The entire article/study is pure spculation, nothing more.

When faith is divorced from reason (or religion from science), people then have no alternative but to believe whatever nonsense they can wrap their brains around.

Ignoring our faith center (our soul), does not get rid of our need to believe.

So, people end up believing in what actually makes no sense if all their systems were in order.

44 posted on 06/28/2014 8:03:25 PM PDT by Slyfox (When progressives ignore moral parameters, they also lose the natural gift of common sense.)
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To: PastorBooks

***One of the professional hunters ***

By any chance Ivan T. Sanderson?


45 posted on 06/28/2014 8:37:14 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Richard Carlson is fortunate to have been leading 3 lives. With the worlds colliding and all.. Oh, never mind. No one will grab that reference...most are way too young.


46 posted on 06/28/2014 8:38:41 PM PDT by V K Lee
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To: Fungi
About the oldest rocks

The book I referenced in post 37 is a modern update to Darwin's original work that includes modern findings that respectfully add to those revealed by Darwin.

One modern finding is that "the summit of mount Everest is formed of rocks made in a shallow sea."

47 posted on 06/28/2014 8:46:08 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oceans of Water Locked Up in Mantle Rocks 400 Miles Deep
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2215&category=Science


48 posted on 06/28/2014 9:15:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Are you doing bong hits for Jesus?


49 posted on 06/28/2014 9:16:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Brown dwarfs!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_dwarf


50 posted on 06/28/2014 9:19:36 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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