Posted on 06/04/2014 9:16:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Do you want to leave the President looking Presidential and the case against Bergdahl a judicial matter?
Or do you want to besmirch the Regime to the max and maximize the win in November, Bergdahl being an afterthought?
I want the overall facts to come out as a practical matter. And destroy as many careers as possible.
If that means, as a judicial matter, Bergdahl has to walk, guess what? I don't care!
I want O gone.
That is a given. I not only want him gone, I want the people I trust and respect - conservatives (not dudes with R beside their name) - in power in all three branches.
Note- I am not saying I agree 100% with all conservatives - I accept the 80% rule, since we are an awkward bunch who got no idea of political lock step. It’s better than scum who are 100% opposed to personal liberty and honor. Her Botoxedness Pelosi would be a good example of what I detest. Ms “behind the scenes” Jarrett another good one.
Yet these idiots have tied themselves to a weak reed in this case. Do it fast, do it legally and hit the gas. Let’s see who swerves first.
We need to get the facts out, not subject to courtroom rules, but rather to the intelligence of the voters. The objective is to kill the Democrat brand, not to kill Bergdahl. I don't care about him, one way or the other. If, in the process of smearing the Regime, we manage to queer the judicial case against Bergdahl, that is mice nuts! I don't care what happens to him.
Call me what you will. Your opinion means less than nothing to me. Hit me up with a bunch of veterans - ones who have actually walked the walk, and yes, I know who here is the real deal - and I may listen to your mouth noises. I have paid my dues. Have you?
I am no O-bot. I detest that little Worm with every fiber of my being. Don’t give a crap that he throws like a pansy and lies like a rug. The one failing in a person I can not abide is cowardice, and he’s never even been brave in an ironical Disney accident scenario. I resent like hell him intruding into something that is strictly internal.
If you can not cope with the idea that a guy can break - you have simply never been there. It is never an excuse, but it is something to be considered.
OK, I get where you are coming from, and yeah, the DoJ is not exactly confidence inspiring at the best of times.
No argument. You have a decent case and I can not dispute it. If he were one of mine, I would, but he is not.
Consider it a little of the “Us vs. them” mentality from the other side. The wheel of blame almost always stops at the military. You sort of get sensitive to that.
Salud!
The jury is still out on that claim.
Don Lemon? Must be a lemon.
Anyone who has served knows that every unit has its share of goldbricks and whiners. Bergdahl would have sufficed for for an entire battalion.
I think any NDA they signed after the fact would be of dubious legality or enforceability. The worst that could happen to them is a legal hassle, that would be far more damaging politically to Obama than it could possibly be worth. That NDA won’t hunt.
Let’s go to George Zimmerman for comment.
.....what Lemon wanted to know was why these soldiers are speaking out so harshly against Bergdahl before there’s any “official evidence” released to the public...
Dope Journalist> they are speaking out because 0bama wants the MSM to suppress the truth. After Susan Rice 2.0, this action is necessary and required
....I want to hear, and see, Bergdahl testify. See his eyes as he speaks....
True, but if a sane man is facing a firing squad, will that sane man lie to save his life???
I pray you are correct.
NDA’s are treated pretty seriously though. I’d hate to see good people go down for speaking up. That is NOT how you run a squad. Everyone has their voice in planning, extraction, and reporting. How else is it going to work? You want zombies following orders to the letter? Or do you want intelligent, dedicated people who are willing to work on the fly to make every mission a success? Cutting corners seems to happen a lot, but, whatever works, right?
I pick the second every time.
Col. Terry Lakin
Of course he will. He’d be dumb not to, and Bergdahl managed to keep head attached to neck for 5 years in very stroppy company.
Yet - let me give you an analogy. You lied to your Mom from time to time, right? She always knew, even if she didn’t call you on it.
Give Bergdahl a jury of his peers. His squad mates. He’s not going to slip any BS past them. They lived with him. Shared meals, showers, shitters, and intense fear, as well as a ton of bull sessions and boredom. They know him better than any other living person, including his parents.
Who are you going to believe? The SRM or the fellow soldiers’ lying eyes?
Neither did a lot of other people supporting Bergdahl. Or a lot of the people condemning him for that matter.
The problem with waiting is that all the facts on Bergdahl will never come out. One would hope the Army has all the information on what happened and will release it. And that if trying Bergdahl for desertion is justified then they would do it. But I'm not holding my breath.
The problem with a contract is that there must be mutual consideration. Any contract entered into under duress is invalid. You can sign an NDA prior to employment, and any subsequent pay is “consideration”, and the contract is enforcable. If you are in the Army in a remote outpost and some G2 major from division flies in and tells you you have to sign this sheet of paper or go to Leavenworth, the paper isn’t worth the laser toner it took to print it.
Sorry for the delay - for some reason it didn’t show I had a ping!
You are, of course, correct about the value of an NDA through coercion. Get two of them and you can have a quick clean up before you flush, for all they are worth. It looks like the brass were relying on a soldier’s unwillingness to buck command.
One other aspect which were pointed out to me on another forum and which may be of benefit to the men stepping forward now - NDA’s are not and can not be retroactive. I am not sure of the legality of that argument - we have a slightly different system - but the person who made the argument seems to know what they are on about.
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