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HK 121 - General Purpose Machine Gun
LiveLeak ^ | 2014 | NA

Posted on 04/01/2014 12:06:23 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

HK121
Universal Machine Gun. Modular. Reliable. Superior.As the successor of the MG3, The HK121 opens a new era of universal belt fed 7.62 mm x 51 machine guns. Compared to others, the gas operated HK121 offers an intelligent and contemporary build standard, with numerous technical and ergonomic innovations. The mounting interface of the HK121 is compatible with MG3 mounts and tripods already in service. The universal HK121 can be used by dismounted infantry in the ground role, as well as for air defence or as a vehicle mounted/co axial machine gun.

approx. 600/700/800 rounds/min
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TOPICS: Government; Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; hk121
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This thing is incredible.

I want one, but I sure don't want the ammo bill.

1 posted on 04/01/2014 12:06:23 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; hiredhand; Squantos; GladesGuru
I WANT ONE!!!

With enough ammo.

2 posted on 04/01/2014 12:07:47 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie
want. (enough said :)

3 posted on 04/01/2014 12:10:48 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Carry_Okie

We all want one. But I don’t think dunking a hot gun barrel in cool water is a good idea.


4 posted on 04/01/2014 12:12:59 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Carry_Okie

Oy, you should have heard me trying to explain to a young liberal that “fully-automatic weapons” are not legal for people to own.

Unless it’s a gun dealer with a Class III permit.

Of course, that’s twenty-year-old info.

Has it ever changed?


5 posted on 04/01/2014 12:13:28 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Carry_Okie

Bfl


6 posted on 04/01/2014 12:13:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Carry_Okie

Looks like a cross between a SAW and a 240...

:-)


7 posted on 04/01/2014 12:16:40 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Carry_Okie

BLOCKED! For later


8 posted on 04/01/2014 12:16:46 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

If I ever had an opportunity to get one, it would have to be a package deal that includes an accident prone boat.


9 posted on 04/01/2014 12:19:09 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: BipolarBob
We all want one. But I don’t think dunking a hot gun barrel in cool water is a good idea.

If your life depended on it you would think so.
It's a cool idea though. :-)

10 posted on 04/01/2014 12:19:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Rodamala
If I ever had an opportunity to get one, it would have to be a package deal that includes an accident prone boat.

I take it you got a sinking feeling.

I'm gonna ruin this thread yet.

11 posted on 04/01/2014 12:20:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

me too

german weapons videos always have cool music. the LEOPARD 2A6 is a great video.


12 posted on 04/01/2014 12:20:39 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: F15Eagle

May machine guns be transferred from one registered owner to another?

Yes. If the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986, it may be transferred pursuant to an approved

http://www.atf.gov/content/Firearms/firearms-industry/FAQ-firearms

You do require permit/license and tax. You are not required to be a dealer.


13 posted on 04/01/2014 12:28:05 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Carry_Okie

I sure wouldn’t want to be packing the ammo for it at my age. My shoulders hurts just thinking about it.


14 posted on 04/01/2014 12:30:10 PM PDT by MrEdd (vHeck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: bravo whiskey
I like the AA-12 video.
15 posted on 04/01/2014 12:32:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: F15Eagle

Class III are still legal but less and less are available.
Toys for very rich people.
Always wanted to buy a HK MP5 but I’ve more important things to think about.


16 posted on 04/01/2014 12:32:46 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Carry_Okie

Now that’s an awesome weapon for the Special Operations Units.Outstanding.


17 posted on 04/01/2014 12:34:10 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Zathras

I remember when the MP5K semi-auto was about $1800 at gun shows.

Of course, this was still America back then.


18 posted on 04/01/2014 12:36:00 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Regular citizens can own select fire weapons. Requires the $200 tax stamp, background check, ATF Forms, signed off by Sheriff, etc. Could take months.

The real kicker is no new select fire weapons have legally been added to circulation since 1986. So they’re becoming very expensive. I think there’s even a couple of miniguns in this category. Last time one was up for sale it was running $250k.

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/?db=nfafirearms&category=All+Items+in+this+Category&query=category&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=headlines&website=&language=&session_key=


19 posted on 04/01/2014 12:36:58 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: afsnco; thackney

Thanks for the info.

$250k? Yikes.


20 posted on 04/01/2014 12:38:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Carry_Okie

*drooling*

I’ll take one suppressed please!

(on a side note I guarantee there’s a whole bunch of swat teams just licking their chops wanting one of those so they can tote them to their no-knock parties too)


21 posted on 04/01/2014 12:38:26 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Rodamala
*snicker*
and you say, you (are going to :) live along the Mississippi
River, too. eh?
..don't we all, live along a large (or fast) river.
lost mine in the New River Gorge *wink/wink* crossing the interstate bridge.

22 posted on 04/01/2014 12:42:10 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Carry_Okie
that's a great video..
all environments, too.

23 posted on 04/01/2014 12:59:04 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Carry_Okie
I take it you got a sinking feeling.

Oy.
24 posted on 04/01/2014 12:59:08 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Oh, momma. I’m in love. That is sustained fire.


25 posted on 04/01/2014 1:01:55 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Carry_Okie


26 posted on 04/01/2014 1:06:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Carry_Okie

But can privates and corporals also use this machine gun or is it only for generals to use?


27 posted on 04/01/2014 1:09:31 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: F15Eagle

Full auto is legal to own in most States, but law requires registration with Fedzilla (BATFE and local top cop) and payment of $200 tax to Feds.

The mis-named “Firearms Owners Protection Act” of 1986 specifies that no full auto NOT registered with BATF in 1986 may be registered with them. Therefore, the supply of legally ownable, legally registerable full auto firearms is fixed ... and the price is through the roof.

IMHO, a plain reading of the Second Amendment and of the Miller decision clearly indicates that this provision of the FOPA is unconstitutional.


28 posted on 04/01/2014 1:11:48 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Carry_Okie

Sweden tested this LMG against the MAG-58 (M240G), the G3, and the M60E4 and decided to buy the M60E4.


29 posted on 04/01/2014 1:11:48 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: NorthMountain

Yeah, somebody referenced a $250k gun earlier in the thread.


30 posted on 04/01/2014 1:13:07 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: GreyFriar
But can privates and corporals also use this machine gun or is it only for generals to use?

Generally speaking, I think it's corporal punishment of private parties.

31 posted on 04/01/2014 1:13:23 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: F15Eagle

Yep. Saw it as I read down-thread. It’s complete madness ... even if I could afford to feed it, I can’t even remotely afford to buy it. I see “Class-III” stuff at gun shows, some times. A clapped-out MAC10 or similar might have a $15,000 price tag ... and that’s a cheap gun.

Back in reality-ville, there’s no technical reason why a full-auto “M-16” would be any more difficult or expensive to manufacture than a semi-auto “AR-15”. In a free country, the latter wouldn’t even exist, as it is a bastardization of Gene Stoner’s design.


32 posted on 04/01/2014 1:17:52 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: The KG9 Kid
Sweden tested this LMG against the MAG-58 (M240G), the G3, and the M60E4 and decided to buy the M60E4.

The M60E4 didn't pass this test. Don't know how the H&K would have done, but the recoil on the M60E4 is worse too.

33 posted on 04/01/2014 1:18:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: F15Eagle
Oy, you should have heard me trying to explain to a young liberal that “fully-automatic weapons” are not legal for people to own.

That depends on which state in which you live. Here in Ohio, we can. You still gotta pay the gubmint $200 and go through the FBI background check. But unless you go through that, you still can't.

34 posted on 04/01/2014 1:20:35 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: 2banana
Looks like a cross between a SAW and a 240

Was thinking the same thing. H&Ks response to either/both?

35 posted on 04/01/2014 1:22:24 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Carry_Okie
The M60E4 didn't pass this test. Don't know how the H&K would have done, but the recoil on the M60E4 is worse too.

But what a fantastic weapon! My all round favorite of any crew served.

36 posted on 04/01/2014 1:24:18 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Carry_Okie

Nice, but check out this modified old war horse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBNGgu0qGlQ


37 posted on 04/01/2014 1:25:04 PM PDT by MCF
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To: Carry_Okie; Travis McGee

Every yatch should have one ... right Travis?


38 posted on 04/01/2014 1:25:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MCF
Nice, but check out this modified old war horse

The durability is great, but I'm not impressed with the groupings.

39 posted on 04/01/2014 1:32:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: NorthMountain

Roger. And that 1986 law was passed under Reagan’s watch. Select fire weapons are generally overkill, but if we’re trying to fight a tyrant and his army, laying down suppressing fire could be VERY useful.


40 posted on 04/01/2014 1:45:31 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: Zathras

If you’re ever in Ohio you are welcome to come shoot my MP5.


41 posted on 04/01/2014 1:46:41 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Carry_Okie

just plain pain and shear wow.

i would love to see the target he was annihilating

t


42 posted on 04/01/2014 2:21:04 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Methinks there are none transferable, courtesy of the Hughes Amendment. May he roast in the New Jersey section of hell.


43 posted on 04/01/2014 2:28:00 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Carry_Okie

What’s the box thingy underneath for?


44 posted on 04/01/2014 2:31:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Carry_Okie

Looks a lot like an MG42 with a new stock and improved belt feed: the hand lug for changing the barrel looks identical.


45 posted on 04/01/2014 2:37:27 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: BipolarBob
We all want one. But I don’t think dunking a hot gun barrel in cool water is a good idea.

If the alternative is either the gun being inoperative from overheating, or being overrun by whoever caused it to overheat, I would think I would dunk it.

46 posted on 04/01/2014 2:55:32 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Abathar
(on a side note I guarantee there’s a whole bunch of swat teams just licking their chops wanting one of those so they can tote them to their no-knock parties too)

The bad news is that "Law Enforcement" is permitted to buy them and you get to pay the freight.

Thank you Ronnie Reagan.

47 posted on 04/01/2014 3:53:02 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: pierrem15

It’s the accuracy that impresses me. It actually makes it worth putting a scope on it. What would be really cool is if they put image stabilization software into the scope that compensated for the repeatable fraction of barrel jump such that the image would hold where the barrel would return for the next shot. It would be a sort of feed-forward image control system that would augment the value of the scope considerably.


48 posted on 04/01/2014 4:02:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Deer Santa, I wanna Ma Duce, a BAR and a M1917 an’ a trailer load of ammo.


49 posted on 04/01/2014 5:07:47 PM PDT by Rifleman
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To: Rifleman

Santa is gonna need a bigger sleigh!...;)


50 posted on 04/01/2014 5:22:47 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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