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OH:Self Defense Shooter's Gun Ordered Returned after 18 Months
Gun Watch ^ | 1 March, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/28/2014 4:43:47 PM PST by marktwain


The shooting occurred on October 19, 2012, at about 2:44 am and was a classic case of self defense and castle doctrine.   The deceased was a violent convict that had a long history of crime and fighting, and had alcohol, cocaine, and Oxycodone in his system when he was shot.

His relatives complained vigorously when they found out that he was shot, claiming that "they did not have to shoot him".

On June 27, 2013, it was reported that Jack Dillon would not be charged.   A grand jury had determined that his decision to shoot Jeffrey Carson fell within the castle doctrine in Ohio.    It took over nine months for the investigation to work its way through the system.  Now, at the end of February, more than eight months later, a court has ordered that Mr. Dillon's pistol be returned to him.  The prosecutors did not oppose the return of the .45:

Prosecutors didn’t oppose the return of the gun, which Dillon used to shoot 29-year-old Jeffrey Carson on Oct. 19, 2012, said Dillon’s attorney, Paul St. Marie.
 So why did it take eight months after the Grand Jury found that the shooting was justified to return the Dillon's property, property that they had used to defend themselves, when on the very night of the shooting, they had been confronted by the relatives of the man that they had shot?
As the yelling continued, Jessica Dillon, who lives next door, called the police at 9:37 a.m. to report that the burglary suspect's family members were outside 112 Water St. causing trouble, according to an Elyria police log. 

The couple yelled at Carson's family to get off their property. Carson's family members slowly backed away yelling that the Dillons didn't have to kill their brother. 

Minutes later police showed up and de-escalated the situation and sent everyone on their way.
If the prosecutors had no problem with returning the Dillon's property, why didn't they do it eight months earlier?   It smells suspiciously of attempted legalized theft of firearms, an all too common practice in the United States.

If you have to go to the trouble of having a court order the return of your firearms, it often costs more than they firearms are worth.   Many people never bother.

Some states are addressing the problem with legislation.  Kansas bill  HB 2473 requires that if the owner of a firearm is acquitted of the charges, or if the charges are dropped, the firearm has to be returned in 30 days. 


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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; castledoctrine; elyria; oh
It is wise to have spare weapons. It may take years to have yours returned from the police, even when you are completely justified.
1 posted on 02/28/2014 4:43:47 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Looks like a nice weapon.


2 posted on 02/28/2014 4:51:43 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

In the past, when someone got their firearm back, the gun was so rusted up it was useless.


3 posted on 02/28/2014 4:59:17 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: marktwain

My ex wife shot her boyfriend in my kitchen with my gun. It was murder IMO, but they ruled it self defense. It took about 18 months to get my gun back.


4 posted on 02/28/2014 5:00:23 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: marktwain

Give them time, next it will be if you use A weapon to defend yourself in your own home, the thugs will confiscate ALL the weapons in your house until further notice; for your safety
Frankly, I’m sure that is already the current policy in some places.


5 posted on 02/28/2014 5:01:55 PM PST by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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6 posted on 02/28/2014 5:02:28 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: marktwain

If the victim had died, it wouldn’t even have made it to the last pages of the newspaper.

The message: victim, we don’t give a damn about you.


7 posted on 02/28/2014 5:07:40 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: umgud

What exactly do they do with the gun that takes 18 months?


8 posted on 02/28/2014 5:09:30 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: umgud

I just boggle that you can condense so much potential story in such a short post.

Sounds like the first line in a detective novel.


9 posted on 02/28/2014 5:17:13 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: dhs12345
What exactly do they do with the gun that takes 18 months?

Stonewall, give you the runaround, shuffle you between numerous different public servants. It cost me a lot of effort, but not any money. I guess I finally reached the right person or they just decided I wasn't going away.

10 posted on 02/28/2014 5:20:49 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: umgud

Wow.

Would she have been able to buy another gun?

It is a bit ironic but after a life threatening incident, you might need a firearm to defend yourself from vengeful family members, friends or the nutty public.


11 posted on 02/28/2014 5:25:59 PM PST by dhs12345
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12 posted on 02/28/2014 5:47:56 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

often times police write on the gun, parts of the ghun, people have had them returned with spray paint on parte, permannt marker marks on them and the barrels, due to “testing” issues.


13 posted on 02/28/2014 5:55:48 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: umgud

Ex wife... good call there.


14 posted on 02/28/2014 6:44:30 PM PST by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: marktwain

In 1993, a Police officer friend of mine shot AT a suspect with a sidearm that I loaned him while his was in the armory....Never made contact. I still haven’t gotten that pistol back. Not holding my breath.


15 posted on 02/28/2014 7:08:48 PM PST by The_Sword_of_Groo (A Winch usually gets mounted on the front of a jeep...a wench usually gets mounted in the back.)
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To: marktwain
This is one of the reasons why I have a Glock 23 as my primary defense weapon. I'm not a Glockoholic, so even if I never get it back, it's no big loss. The other reason is that it's the AK-47 of pistols. When you pull the trigger you know it's going to go boom and be ready for the next shot.
16 posted on 02/28/2014 7:26:22 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: dangerdoc
I just boggle that you can condense so much potential story in such a short post.

I had the same thought. But the first sentence should be, "It was a dark and stormy night."

17 posted on 02/28/2014 10:14:42 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: dhs12345
What exactly do they do with the gun that takes 18 months?

It takes that long to let it be known that who ever took the gun from the evidence room for his own use had better put it back because there is a lawsuit coming.

18 posted on 03/01/2014 7:15:52 AM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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