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Time Travel Impossible,Say Scientists(So Forget The Stakeouts in Early 1960's Kenya)
Discovery News ^ | July 24, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 01/29/2014 11:10:03 AM PST by lbryce


By proving a single photon can't travel faster than light, scientists say they have proven time travel is impossible.

THE GIST
Hong Kong physicists say they have proven a single photon cannot travel faster than the speed of light.

This demonstrates that time travel is impossible, they say.

Hong Kong physicists say they have proved that a single photon obeys Einstein's theory that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light — demonstrating that outside science fiction, time travel is impossible.

The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology research team led by Du Shengwang said they had proved that a single photon, or unit of light, "obeys the traffic law of the universe."

"Einstein claimed that the speed of light was the traffic law of the universe or in simple language, nothing can travel faster than light," the university said on its website.

"Professor Du's study demonstrates that a single photon, the fundamental quanta of light, also obeys the traffic law of the universe just like classical EM (electromagnetic) waves."

The possibility of time travel was raised 10 years ago when scientists discovered superluminal — or faster-than-light — propagation of optical pulses in some specific medium, the team said.

It was later found to be a visual effect, but researchers thought it might still be possible for a single photon to exceed light speed.

Du, however, believed Einstein was right and determined to end the debate by measuring the ultimate speed of a single photon, which had not been done before.

"The study, which showed that single photons also obey the speed limit c, confirms Einstein's causality; that is, an effect cannot occur before its cause," the university said.

"By showing that single photons cannot travel faster than the speed of light, our results bring a closure to the debate on the true speed of information carried by a single photon," said Du, assistant professor of physics.

"Our findings will also likely have potential applications by giving scientists a better picture on the transmission of quantum information."

The team's study was published in the U.S. peer-reviewed scientific journal Physical Review Letters.


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: falsesyllogism; grandfatherparadox; strawman; stringtheory; timetravel
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41 posted on 01/29/2014 12:06:48 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: Milton Miteybad

Nope. They just sit there turned on.


42 posted on 01/29/2014 12:07:20 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: frog in a pot

‘What is relevant and much more practical is to consider that all one has to do is to travel to one of the infinite number of parallel universes that is some precisely measured amount of time different (+ or -) than ours.’

Gmta. I had the same idea, though admittedly in a fictional format.


43 posted on 01/29/2014 12:08:18 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: MrB

Thanks!


44 posted on 01/29/2014 12:09:12 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: lbryce

I was just discussing this with someone next week.


45 posted on 01/29/2014 12:09:12 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Oberon
...it's a floor cleaner...No!...it's a dessert topping! I think a photon is a particle produced by an energy wave. If that's true, then the question becomes...Where is the photon produced? Do you see a particle that has travelled (like produced on the Sun) or do you just see the particle from the atoms surrounding your eyes?

Regarding time travel, I think these guys are off base and so was Einstein, a bit. How can a universal constant use a time division unique to only one planet in the universe?

46 posted on 01/29/2014 12:12:35 PM PST by gr8eman (How ya doin Bob?...Bitchen!)
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To: lbryce

It has long been established that the rules of normal space are such that the speed of light cannot be transcended within it. But that is just normal space. So for years theorists have supposed an alternative space with different rules.


47 posted on 01/29/2014 12:13:00 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: GreenHornet

It’s funny but just last week I laughed at your joke all day.


48 posted on 01/29/2014 12:17:24 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: smoothsailing

“Maybe they should test a faster proton.”

Or how about a Tachyon?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon


49 posted on 01/29/2014 12:17:28 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: lbryce

I’m thinking that in order to “time travel” we need to step into another dimension. The speed of photons has nothing to do with it. The Risen Christ’s comings and goings on the first Easter Suggest to me that He merely switched from our dimension to another to deliver His she blood to the Heavenly Mercy Seat, and be back again in just a few hours to walk with Mr. & Mrs. Cleopas to their home in Emmaus, etc. Just my humble opinion.


50 posted on 01/29/2014 12:17:46 PM PST by Tucker39 ("Having their conscience seared with a hot iron.")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Or how about a Tachyon?

Can't find em.
51 posted on 01/29/2014 12:20:28 PM PST by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: Fantasywriter

You got me curious about the permutations of Fuddruckers...

...originally it’s “Fuddruckers,” then “Futtbuckers” and then “Buttruckers,” and finally arrives at the obvious obscenity...


52 posted on 01/29/2014 12:21:14 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ZX12R

I put them over there, next to the Tachyoffs.


53 posted on 01/29/2014 12:22:18 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Drawsing

“Anyone get the above reference?”

“A Sound of Thunder”:

A 1950’s short story by Ray Bradbury

A 2005 movie with Heike Makatsch playing the part of Alicia Wallenbeck.


54 posted on 01/29/2014 12:24:02 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: lbryce

Time travel is impossible because it offends reason. Time is fixed, and is not a malleable “dimension”. There was one 1960 and that’s it. You can’t go fast enough and live through last week again. Where does it exist? This alternate Nebraska, with an alternate family, cooking last weeks dinner.

It should be way past obvious that sci-fi and string hypothesis (not a theory since no repeatable experiments demonstrate it) have taken physics into a deep error.

We have flipped the model and made a grave error. When the math does not describe the observable universe we should look at the math model and look for the errors. Instead, we decide the math model is accurate if the calculations are right, and try to make the observations fit the math.

In 500 years they will laugh at us.


55 posted on 01/29/2014 12:27:52 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

They made a movie of “a sound of thunder”?

I remember the last line of the story “and there was a sound of thunder” (as the main character was shot)


56 posted on 01/29/2014 12:27:54 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
I put them over there, next to the Tachyoffs.

Well, if tachyons exist, and its true that every particle has its anti-particle, then tachyoffs should exist as well. But what do they do when they meet?
57 posted on 01/29/2014 12:28:01 PM PST by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: ZX12R

You don’t wanna know... let’s just say it’s a tacky thing to ponder.


58 posted on 01/29/2014 12:30:36 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

The filming was so good. The shot of Joe, nice-guy/relatively innocent [i.e.: he never did catch onto Rita’s line of work/’art’] taking in the name of the restaurant, and then looking down at the sweet group of little kids eating there. You could just see the cogs in his brain moving, trying to put two and two together.

It really is a good movie. The outtakes aren’t bad either. I watched some on Youtube.

[The scene w Joe noticing the name of the restaurant happens, I believe, a little bit further into the movie. The opening scene set it up well, though. Very nicely done throughout.]


59 posted on 01/29/2014 12:32:12 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: DesertRhino
Time travel is impossible because it offends reason.

It offends reason, because nobody knows what "IT" is. And reason has long been discarded as a tool for probing reality.
60 posted on 01/29/2014 12:33:03 PM PST by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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