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U.S. Trade Deficit: Made in Washington, D.C.? (of course)
Heritage ^ | January 16, 2014 | Bryan Riley

Posted on 01/22/2014 10:02:34 AM PST by 1rudeboy

The Treasury Department recently reported that China and Japan are the largest foreign holders of U.S. government debt. China now owns $1.317 trillion in U.S. government debt. Japan owns another $1.186 trillion. It is no surprise that China and Japan are also the two countries with which the United States has the largest annual trade deficits. Here’s why:

When Americans import a product made in China or Japan, those dollars can be used to purchase U.S. exports (benefiting Americans), to invest in the U.S. private sector (also benefiting Americans), or to help finance federal budget deficits (benefiting Americans by lowering our government’s cost of borrowing).

If people in China and Japan used all the dollars they earned from exporting goods to the United States to purchase U.S.-made products, the trade deficit would be zero.

But when they use those dollars to buy U.S. Treasury securities, the United States winds up with a trade deficit. Americans may benefit from those purchases, but sales of Treasury bonds don’t count as exports.

The trade deficit today, as in 1985, has very little to do with foreign trade barriers, currency manipulation, or “unfair” trade practices. The trade deficit is driven by U.S. politicians who have borrowed trillions of dollars from China, Japan, and other countries that could otherwise have been invested in American industries or spent on American-made goods and services.

As ABC News reported in 1985, “The most basic [trade] problem is agreed to be the budget deficit. But nobody here seems able to do anything about that.” In this regard, little has changed in the past 29 years.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: freetrade
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It's simple to see what would happen our government stayed within its budget.
1 posted on 01/22/2014 10:02:34 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

The budget deficit is a result of the trade deficit.

And the trade deficit does have to do with trade barriers, or more accurately the lack of trade barriers. We lowered the tariffs in the 1960s and that resulted in a flood of cheap imports that drove American businesses out of business, or drove them to off-shore their products.

The result is that Chinese are employed and Americans are not. That drives the budget deficit deficit because now we have to support 100 million Americans on food stamps, medicaid and other support programs. And we no longer get income tax revenues from those Americans working. And states and local communities no longer get sales tax revenues because those Americans no longer have much to spend.


2 posted on 01/22/2014 10:23:51 AM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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To: DannyTN

That would be an interesting argument to make, if you can prove it.


3 posted on 01/22/2014 10:28:59 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
The trade deficit today, as in 1985, has very little to do with foreign trade barriers, currency manipulation, or “unfair” trade practices.

Let's isolate this line from the link so the outrage of the FR protectionists can run rampant without having to hurt their brains by reading the entire article.

And let me be the first to say bring back American jobs now!

4 posted on 01/22/2014 10:51:14 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

I remember reading somewhere that the trade deficit is at a four-year low (largely because of fracking). I wonder how government spending has done over the same period . . . if there is a correlation, it should be down, right?


5 posted on 01/22/2014 11:02:22 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Obama's government = more debt accumulated than all other presidents in history combined. Nothing that a few good tariffs couldn't solve.

The trade deficit = debt crowd should be here shortly. Maybe not.

6 posted on 01/22/2014 11:13:59 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: DannyTN

Gee Danny there you go using common sense again.


7 posted on 01/22/2014 11:14:23 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DannyTN

You have demonstrated that Free Trade has categorically failed.

It’s supporters cannot prove it works.

If Trade Deficits were a good thing, as the statist Free Traders claim, Africa would be the economic powerhouse on the planet. Instead, most of them still pee and poop in their potable water


8 posted on 01/22/2014 11:15:22 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Mase

Ok, thanks. The problem can be solved by giving Obama more of my money. I hadn’t thought of it, that way.


9 posted on 01/22/2014 11:15:28 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SeminoleCounty
It’s supporters cannot prove it works.

Wait, it does work for the stock holders of a few specific corporations, it works to support the ChiComs government, and it supports business school professors that teach this snake oil. Everyone else is a loser - unless you think saving 3 cents on a dollar is worth the social costs of 100 million unemployed.

10 posted on 01/22/2014 11:19:19 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I believe Nigeria has a trade surplus of billions of dollars. Do you want to move there?


11 posted on 01/22/2014 11:19:37 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: central_va
Everyone else is a loser - unless you think saving 3 cents on a dollar is worth the social costs of 100 million unemployed.

So if I spend $1.03 for every $1.00 I spend now, 100 million will find work? You sound like a politician.

12 posted on 01/22/2014 11:24:44 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DannyTN

Job exporting companies use the reduced labor cost to affect costs & profits and the saved labor cost is exported to the government. Taxpayers pay in increased costs for the product or increased costs in taxes. Which is the most costly for the country?

You might consider that exporting jobs has ruined the SS system because the workers and owners pay no SS tax.


13 posted on 01/22/2014 11:26:48 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: 1rudeboy
I'm told that once we agree to higher tariffs they'll repeal the federal income tax.

The protectionist mind remains an eternal mystery.

14 posted on 01/22/2014 11:27:41 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Are you saying that if we manufactured EVERYTHING we consumed ourselves that the number of unemployed in the USA would be unchanged from 100 million?


15 posted on 01/22/2014 11:28:23 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ex-snook
You might consider that exporting jobs has ruined the SS system because the workers and owners pay no SS tax.

Now that directly points at the nut of the argument, here. Is the SS system ruined because some jobs were "exported," or because someone spent the SS money?

16 posted on 01/22/2014 11:29:25 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mase
The protectionist mind remains an eternal mystery.

It's mind-boggling, in a way. Raising taxes will induce our politicians to spend less money.

17 posted on 01/22/2014 11:33:38 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
It does boggle the mind. These are also the same people telling us we need to spend more money now so we can save money in the future -- Willie logic.

I suppose we shouldn't be surprised by this kind of thinking. It comes from people who believe sporting a consistent trade surplus correlates with quality of life. That's why so many people are eager to move to places like Nigeria, Venezuela, Libya, Uzbekistan, Iran and Angola.

18 posted on 01/22/2014 11:51:12 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

And that was the thing about Willie—I don’t object to trains, just how they are funded. Why do some conservatives (and I understand that Willie wasn’t) run to the government to fix things, while simultaneously observing that the government has broken things?


19 posted on 01/22/2014 11:58:48 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DannyTN
"The budget deficit is a result of the trade deficit."

You hit the nail right on the head.

One cannot exist without the other. And when all demand here is satisfied by overseas sources due to lack of trade barriers, there will be no growth here. No growth = no employment = lots of new gov't dependent dem voters.

The democrats (the party chiefs at least) understand the political implications of free trade and open immigration. The GOP are stuck on stupid, and will be extinct soon if they keep backing this madness.
20 posted on 01/22/2014 12:34:27 PM PST by CowboyJay (Cruz'-ing in 2016!)
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