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Is There Something Wrong With The Term: "War Between the States?"
Old Virginia Blog ^ | 01-06-2014 | Richard G. Williams, Jr.

Posted on 01/11/2014 11:16:07 AM PST by Davy Buck

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To: Davy Buck

My SIL (hubby’s ancestors are from the south) still calls it the “War of Northern Aggression”


41 posted on 01/11/2014 12:03:07 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Bulwyf

True. I wanted the Southernphobes to have to go and ask their moms to explain it to them.


42 posted on 01/11/2014 12:04:03 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
The Civil War Was When The Yankees Invaded America

-- Granny Clampett.

43 posted on 01/11/2014 12:06:12 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Don’t forget North Carolina.


44 posted on 01/11/2014 12:06:36 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Vaquero
Fort Sumter could have been eventually negotiated, but the Rebs decided to start the war.

Eventually wouldn't have taken long. Anderson had informed the Confederates that he would have to surrender within three days or so if not resupplied.

45 posted on 01/11/2014 12:06:49 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Lee'sGhost

To me, the US died after that war, it was all a downhill slide to where we are today.


46 posted on 01/11/2014 12:06:57 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

RE: “It was never about slavery.”

I disagree.

If you take slavery out of the dispute, I don’t see how you motivate millions of soldiers - North or South - to run across open fields into direct gunfire.

I mean, would you risk your life today to stop California or New York City from seceding?

Not me.

In 1860, as war talk heated up, half the people in America had lived their entire lives within 100 miles of their birthplace.

Very hard for me to believe that farmers in Vermont got so agitated about farmers in Georgia seceding from the Union that they went to war.


47 posted on 01/11/2014 12:07:49 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Bryanw92
Of course, from Lincoln’s point of view (and that of the victors, who write the history) the Confederate States of America never left the USA, so they see it as a Civil War.

According to the author of this article, RE Lee used the term Civil War, so I fail to see why any good southerner would object to the term.

48 posted on 01/11/2014 12:09:30 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Lee'sGhost
No intelligent person on the planet would argue that you cannot unjoin a club that you voluntarily joined. Just liberals and Lincoln lovers.

The Mafia and the CIA not withstanding....

49 posted on 01/11/2014 12:10:24 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: zeestephen

I do believe the southern soldiers disliked the idea of a government far away telling them how to live and what to pay them among other things.


50 posted on 01/11/2014 12:11:45 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Another one of the truths about the war was that it tipped the scale of power to the federal government, creating the snowball rolling downhill that eventually became Obama and our new system of unlawful governance...Obamunism.

Those who cannot see the war for what it was beyond the part that involved slavery don’t seem to understand that they support the thing that Obama possible, and therefore support Obama.

They really hate that fact. But it is another simple truth.


51 posted on 01/11/2014 12:12:32 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Davy Buck
The War of Hotel California.

You can check in but you can't check out.


52 posted on 01/11/2014 12:13:11 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: EandH Dad

“Bumps in the road”- Barry Obama


53 posted on 01/11/2014 12:13:59 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Lee'sGhost

I see that from my own research on things, and I agree that paved the way for today. Slavery was what they cried about to the public to gain support.


54 posted on 01/11/2014 12:14:08 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: rockrr

“but no one - even the rebels - considered unilateral secession legitimate.”

Says you, a yankee liberal.


55 posted on 01/11/2014 12:14:12 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: zeestephen

You are correct. It was about slavery. Southerners did not want to be enslaved by northerners and their all powerful federal government.


56 posted on 01/11/2014 12:14:29 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Davy Buck

Civil War works for me. The country was divided in half


57 posted on 01/11/2014 12:14:49 PM PST by plain talk
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To: James C. Bennett

“Definitely not the CSA losers.”

Or the northern states that started slavery and held onto it even after the civil war was over.


58 posted on 01/11/2014 12:15:01 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Bulwyf
Problem with that theory being, a lot of southern states are closer to DC than say, Vermont. Or California.

Somebody pointed out that many people hadn't ever been more than 100 miles from their homes. Part of it was that a war was a source of excitement, an excuse to travel, to partake of the pomp and glitz and glory of military service. Of course, it wasn't quite so much fun once they got there.

59 posted on 01/11/2014 12:15:14 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: central_va

Mafia...post-war U.S. Same thing.


60 posted on 01/11/2014 12:15:32 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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