Posted on 01/08/2014 4:52:03 AM PST by Master Zinja
Today marks the anniversary of the Battle of New Orleans, the final major battle of the War of 1812, fought in 1815 after the signing of the Treaty of Ghent in Europe but before this fact was discovered by forces in this battle. The American victory over the British in this battle raised American morale in the final days of the war and also made Andrew Jackson a household name. In honor of the American victory, we raise the Star-Spangled Banner today, the flag of 15 stars and 15 stripes which was the standard during the War of 1812.
In 1814, we took a little trip,
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip
We took along some bacon and we took along some beans
And we caught the bloddy British at the town of New Orleans
I’ve always found it interesting how the war of 1812 seems to be the war almost no one these days knows about.
I sometimes believe that the pop culture and history in schools view the Civil War as being our first war, and Lincoln as our ‘first president’/Founding Father.
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Thanks, what a great song.
Andrew Jackson relied on the warriors of the Cherokee nation to win battles at Horseshoe Bend and New Orleans....
When he became president, he repaid them by creating the Trail of Tears moving them forcibly off their ancestral lands, taking all their possessions, and moving them to Oklahoma...
Andrew Jackson was an a$$.............
We fired our guns and the british kept a comin’,
There wasn’t ‘bout as many as there was awhile ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin’
On down the mississippi to the gulf of mexico.
We fired our guns and the british kept a comin’,
There wasn’t ‘bout as many as there was awhile ago.
We fired once more and they began to runnin’
On down the mississippi to the gulf of mexico.
Great song
The melody was from an old fiddle tune that I often play called the Eighth of January. Even as an instrumental, it brings a smile to people’s faces as they recall the lyrics..
A lot of fun, at the expense of our (now)good friends, the Brits.
I’ve always found it interesting how the war of 1812 seems to be the war almost no one these days knows about.
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I have been reading a good deal about the War of 1812 these last two years or so. Some writers refer to it as the “forgotten war”.
Fortunately, for me, there have been quite a bit of remembrance ceremonies throughout Maryland during the anniversary years of certain battles and events. This year, marks the anniversary of a battle that took place about 3 miles from our home, and there will be a re-enactment.
It is my understanding that the words to that song were written by a history teacher who was trying to help his students learn history.
“It is my understanding that the words to that song were written by a history teacher who was trying to help his students learn history.”
Don’t think so, BR. Lyrics by the great songwriter, Jimmy Driftwood. Made into a hit by Johnny Horton.
Interesting note;
I read, years ago, in a gun magazine, that on the trip to New Orleans, Jackson’s army picked up 2000 frontier riflemen all armed to the teeth.
What many people don’t know is only 500 of them had working rifles.
*** and moving them to Oklahoma...
Andrew Jackson was an a$$.............***
Now what would happen if we got a guilt trip over this and DEMANDED all Cherokees give up their possessions in Oklahoma and move back to the Carolinas!
They are so ingrained in Oklahoma you might have another fight on your hands!
ALL Ani-Yun-Wiya (Cherokee) aren’t in Oklahoma...Have you ever heard of the Qualla Reservation in North Carolina????
Chief Tsali hid out in the mountains with about 1,000 braves when jackson ordered “The Removal”...jackson spent 3 years trying to catch him, but could not...He finally said if he surrendered, Jackson would allow the rest to remain in North Carolina...He did and was immediately executed...Jackson then formed the Qualla Reservation below Asheville. Why didn’t Jackson do this from the start and save the lives of approximately 8,000 Cherokee men, womwn and children who died along the Trail of Tears???????
As I said before, Jackson was an a$$...
BTW, I am Ani-Yun-Wiya and a veteran of Vietnam...I am American through and through also!!!!!!
My ancestors were treated like dogs by Jackson...I hold HIM accountable for this...A great American named David Crockett fought against this removal in the US Congress but was not successful...
Yes I know about it. Many tribes managed to stay in their original lands and also Oklahoma, like the Seminoles of Florida and Oklahoma.
But remember, it was internal dissension in the Cherokees that got them removed. John Ross wanted a better deal, but was kidnapped by the opposition Cherokee party who then signed the treaty of Removal. They then resigned themselves to being killed, which they were when they went to Oklahoma. A mini civil war happened throughout NE Oklahoma after the removal.
The Civil War dissension (1861-65) in Oklahoma was a holdover from the Ross faction (pro Union) and Stand Watie (pro Confederate) split.
Why did Jackson want the Cherokee lands? Well, there was “GOLD in them thar hills”! Yes, Jackson was an ass. But but drop a bill with Jackson on it at the Cherokee Casinos and they will smile and take it!
***A great American named David Crockett****
Crockett was correct. His position on this was right.
But when he was told to go to “Hell or Texas” he said he did not want to be thought a coward, so he went to Texas.
Question? If Crockett had not gone to Texas would he be remembered today?
Alexander Hewitt said, in 1779: “The Cherokees differ in some respects from other Indian Nations that have wandered often from place to place...From time immemorial, they have had possession of the same territory which at present they occupy. They affirm, that their forefathers sprung from that ground, or descended from the clouds upon those hills. These lands of their ancestors they value above all things in the world. They venerate the places where their bones lie interred, and esteem it disgraceful in the highest degree to relinquish these sacred repositories
If Sam Houston had not left East Tennessee and also gone to Texas, would he be remembered also????
His mother is buried in our church cemetary at Baker Creek presbyterian church near Greenback, Tennessee....
None of the land cessions made with the white man was valid before John Ross was made Principal Chief, nor those made afterwards with any other, while he was still Principal Chief. Prior to that, no single individual nor group of individuals had the right to cede land.
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