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Posted on 10/25/2013 1:49:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Well, this is awkward. An auction in Colorado for the right to build solar energy plants produced no bids, according to the Denver Post.
"We are going to have to regroup and figure out what didn't work," Maryanne Kurtinaitis, renewable energy program manager for the federal Bureau of Land Management’s Colorado office told the Post.
But Ken Borngrebe, environmental permitting manager for First Solar, said the problem likely had to do with market uncertainties surrounding solar projects.
"It may come down to the lack of confidence in the market for solar today," Borngrebe said.
The problems for solar energy stem not only from public aversion to government funding due to the Solyndra bankruptcy, but also a lack of demand.
In New Jersey, for instance, state and federal incentives over the past decade helped the solar industry in that state boom, but after more solar infrastructure was built than needed to satisfy demand for the product, prices crashed.
The 3,700 acres up for bid in the San Luis Valley were designated solar enterprise zones by the federal Bureau of Land Management, which means development of the solar plants would be fast-tracked due to easy access to transmission lines. The zones are also in areas that are not environmentally sensitive.
So even prime land can’t get solar companies to bite. The land is still available for development, even after the embarrassment.
The land is still available for development, even after the embarrassment.
I’m thinking the above sentence needs a question mark at the end. Under present government “thinking” I’m not so sure government land is available for just any kind of development.
...and even if it was, just what idiot is going to jump in after the shutdown debacle proved what being under the government thumb/hammer would get you.
Several years ago Tallahassee wanted to clear out the brush from an area beside the main road into town that was 100 yards long and 20 yards wide. (The left all of the trees.) The hue and cry was amazing. It would destroy the character of the area! So, they’re willing to essentially pave over 3700 acres of TREES! with solar panels? What are the environmentalists thinking? (Drinking? Smoking?)
The lament of the socialist: “But the plan looks so *good* on paper!”
I’d be willing to bet that the terms of the Request for Quote were horrendous.
Here’s how the bid process normally works. Some friends of a high ranking den incorporate some green sounding company. They then promise to kick back ten percent of any gov grants to the dems via political donations. Viola! Solendra gets nearly a billion of our money...
Can I suggest the fear is that some environmentalist will find a rare frog in his arse. They will then spend countless years in Court.
Just change "solar" to FRACKING....and watch the money roll in
Better yet....swap the 3,700 acres for 3,700 acres in BLM land on the Green River Formation for fracking.
(Green River Formation weighs in at about 3 TRILLION barrels of oil)
It’s time for the government to stimulate our economy by SELLING “public” land.
I am slow to post or you are reading my mind again :-)
Seriously, wasn't Harold Vinegar the guy who figured out how to get oil out of Green River and it was too politically incorrect and a hot potato the oil companies gave up?
On Harold Vinegar...
http://www.timesofisrael.com/should-israel-get-oil-out-of-vinegar-for-an-energy-revolution/
The vast majority of the petroleum in the Green River Shale formation is not going to be produced by drilling with hydraulic fracturing like the Bakken or Eagle Ford.
It is not thermally mature enough to have cooked the organic hydrocarbons out of the rock as crude oil like the Bakken or Eagle Ford. The petroleum it does contain is mostly Kerogen still in the shale. It has to be retorted (or cooked) out.
There is not "free" oil that will flow. The Kerogen, once cooked out, can be made into a synthetic crude at reasonable cost to send to refinery. The retorting is the major expense.
Shell and some other companies have experimented in Green River. They had to inject a lot of heat underground before any petroleum could be pumped/pushed out. They also had to create a "freeze wall" surrounding the area below ground to prevent the contamination of the water table.
Green River Shale is a tremendous resource. But it will be far more expensive to produce than shales like Bakken and Eagle Ford. Just like we didn't produce those until after the cheap & easy stuff was getting scarce and oil prices rose, so will be the case for Green River, after we look back at today as the time of cheap oil prices.
Well, this is awkward... The problems for solar energy stem not only from public aversion to government funding due to the Solyndra bankruptcy, but also a lack of demand.The green energy initiatives a.k.a. money-laundering operation carried out by the current regime should have been a much bigger scandal than the S&L crisis, but it gets no coverage from the Partisan Media Shills.
from the FRchives:
“Namaste Solar is the Colorado company that served as the backdrop for President O’s green energy initiative.”
President Obama’s Green Energy Oops. Namaste.
The American Sentinel | 02/26/2009 | tbascom
Posted on 02/26/2009 8:24:46 PM PST by NEPAConservative
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Coal advocates to storm Capitol Hill
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I like lafroste’s idea from another thread...
Wish I had known about this. I would’ve bid a hundred bucks then use the land for hunting and camping (survey, don’t cha know).
19 posted on Sat 26 Oct 2013 07:40:41 AM PDT by lafroste
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The government needs to stay out of nascient technologies like solar and let grass roots interest do it’s magic. If people are stoked about solar, they will find much better ways to implement it than government ever could. It’s frustrating how the administration (and liberally like-minded folks) are trying to hijack this as their own idea before it’s been vetted. Did you guys hear about Apple opening up a solar plant in AZ? http://www.saveonpower.net/
Thanks, I hadn’t heard about the Apple plant. Having lived a third of my life under our lovely regional overcast, I’ve generally had a different opinion than the cheerleaders of the photovoltaic grid. Wind power, that’s a different story. But the US simply can’t power itself with windmills, with or without photovoltaic arrays.
Besides their efficiency fade during their early months of constant use, they don’t work at their operating peak most of the day, and don’t work at all at night. Also, they put out DC, and there are good solid reasons why AC prevailed in the market over DC.
Of course, the Gore approach would be to force AC to pay for more DC, IOW, force consumers to pay for something that is inherently more expensive. That’s one of the many reasons Gore belongs at the end of a rope.
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