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Immigration Benefits The U.S., So Let's Legalize All Work
forbes.com ^ | 9/16/2013 | Doug Bandow

Posted on 09/17/2013 7:46:34 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

Immigration reform, once the top priority coming out of the 2012 presidential election, has stalled. The Senate has passed legislation, but the House is badly divided.

The current system is a shambles. Legal categories and subcategories, quotas, and lotteries have created a flourishing legal industry. The immigration bureaucracy is a lower level of Dante’s Hell. Foreign students are turned away from U.S. universities, highly-skilled individuals are barred from working in America, and even political refugees sometimes are denied entry. Attempting to fence off the country is no answer to anything. It would be difficult for a generally free society with extensive borders to close out the rest of the world. Worse, to be effective such controls as ID cards, citizenship checks, workplace raids, employer sanctions, and more would undermine domestic liberties

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration
If he believes...Immigration makes a more innovative, flexible, and productive economy, leading to new and better jobs. .He must mean better jobs for gov workers to issue food stamps,welfare, health care, free college educations.If he believes Immigration reform, Benefits The U.S., So Let's Legalize All Work..Let send all the illegals back to their home countries so their special powers can save Latin America.Immigration reform makes Latin America more innovative, flexible, and productive economy, leading to new and better jobs.Let us get by with using our own citizens.Look at how well 1986 Immigration reform ,worked out.Let us not repeat the same mistakes from 1986.. Once is enough in this life time.
1 posted on 09/17/2013 7:46:34 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Bull Obama.

Smelly, pungent, moist, fly-drawing bull Obama.

It could only come from a liberal.


2 posted on 09/17/2013 7:48:11 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: moonshinner_09

I do have to admit, people who come here legally have their pockets absolutely fleeced by members of the immigration bar.


3 posted on 09/17/2013 7:49:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Not to forget 1000’s marching and protesting with flags of U.S./Mexico.But still live in the shadows.


4 posted on 09/17/2013 7:53:41 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

ANNEX MEXICO!!! not


5 posted on 09/17/2013 7:54:14 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: moonshinner_09

I was talking about the people who came legally. Not the illegal LaRaza crowd demonstrating in L.A.


6 posted on 09/17/2013 8:02:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: moonshinner_09

Speaking of immigration, I was watching a tv series that is set in Detroit and they kept referring to “Chaldeans”. The only Chaldeans that I could think of were from Biblical times, so last night I looks it up. Sure enough, they were talking about the same Chaldeans mentioned in the Bible, people from what is now Iraq.
The Chaldeans are non-Muslims, a type of Christian that we brought here from Iraq and deposited in Detroit (and LA and San Diego), 150,000 of them were deposited in Detroit. This is in addition to the Muslims that were settled in Detroit. Is it any wonder that the Detroit is in such financial trouble?


7 posted on 09/17/2013 8:12:17 AM PDT by Eva
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To: moonshinner_09

The Mexicans are not our biggest immigration problem, the Middle Easterners are. Obama is bringing in thousands of Syrians every day through our largest airports and who knows where he is sending them, but we are paying for them.


8 posted on 09/17/2013 8:14:50 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

Completely wrong

These people are hard working small business owners who have opened up restaurants, bakeries, and other businesses, in particular in Dearborn which has kept it afloat

Even national review suggests providing visas for immigrants to specifically go to Detroit to help rebuild it

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/354118/saving-detroit-through-immigration-veronique-de-rugy


9 posted on 09/17/2013 8:18:25 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Eva

Completely wrong

These people are hard working small business owners who have opened up restaurants, bakeries, and other businesses, in particular in Dearborn which has kept it afloat

Even national review suggests providing visas for immigrants to specifically go to Detroit to help rebuild it

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/354118/saving-detroit-through-immigration-veronique-de-rugy


10 posted on 09/17/2013 8:18:25 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: moonshinner_09

If there were no freebies for immigrants and no anchor babies, this MIGHT be correct.
But since we know that is not the case and we know the situation won’t change, this is not true. Immigrants, especially non-English speaking, illiterate or semi-literate, low skilled, and illegally present “immigrants,” cost more than they add to the economy. Essentially they are public subsidy to companies that hire them.


11 posted on 09/17/2013 8:21:55 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: MadIsh32; Eva

“These people are hard working small business owners who have opened up restaurants, bakeries, and other businesses, in particular in Dearborn which has kept it afloat”

It’s not the “business” we’re questioning. It’s the culture they are bringing here. Check every city with the word “Little (insert your country)” and it’s obviously choc full of businesses but they can’t seem to naturally assimilate into the American fabric. I’m confident to say there will be 5 mosques within 2 years if these “hard working people” come into Detroit.


12 posted on 09/17/2013 8:23:47 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: MadIsh32

The TV show depicts them as drug dealers and mafia types, the wikj-pedia article does not say how they support themselves, just that there were several hundred thousand of them brought here.


13 posted on 09/17/2013 8:25:15 AM PDT by Eva
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To: max americana

Are there problems with Little Italy, Chinatown, Koreatown, etc in cities?

Hell, Chicago is pretty much Little Ireland


14 posted on 09/17/2013 8:25:29 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Eva

More then likely by becoming entrepreneurs, opening up restaurants, bars, butcheries, grocery stores, etc, and working hard like people born in America used to work.

When I think immigrants, in particular from the Middle East, I think entrepreneur.


15 posted on 09/17/2013 8:26:52 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

Opening mosques isn’t a problem? We’re talking muzzies here, not Koreans, Chinese or Italians.


16 posted on 09/17/2013 8:31:25 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

My daughter worked for a company that was owned by a self described, Morrocan Jew, and what appeared to be a legitimate, prosperous small company, was anything but. They had an office in NYC and one employee, whose main job was to meet this old rabbi in a hotel room every month, where she would pick up $40,000 in cash and send it on to LA.

As near as we could figure out, the legitimate company was more of a money laundering operation. The point is, the culture is not compatible with freedom and capitalism.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 8:32:14 AM PDT by Eva
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To: max americana

That would violate the equal protection clause.

Again, your argument was based on “little (insert country)

You should have just said “I don’t want Muslims in this country” and been done with it


18 posted on 09/17/2013 8:33:05 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

Well, there ya’ go. This from the original argument of yours that “hard working people” aka Syrians should be allowed into Detroit to set up business.

BTW, you must be middle eastern based on that sole post..


19 posted on 09/17/2013 8:36:02 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: MadIsh32

The TV show depicts the small businesses as fronts and some times they are. The Middle Eastern culture and capitalism don’t mix well. Capitalism without the western moral ethic is just a criminal enterprise.


20 posted on 09/17/2013 8:36:44 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

“The point is, the culture is not compatible with freedom and capitalism.”

And a number of Freepers still don’t get this simple concept. But hey...they are “hard working people who will set up businesses..” LOL


21 posted on 09/17/2013 8:38:35 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: MadIsh32
When I think immigrants, in particular from the Middle East, I think entrepreneur.?

From your tagline, I would think you are libertarian. I was young and that way once. I would say you are either young are extremely naive.

There are forces at work in this world to destroy our Republic.

These people pouring in from the Middle East are not here to "live the American dream."

99% of all Islamic people coming from Middle East are coming for one reason -- to eventually destroy America as Founded.

Young libertarians are some of the most repulsive people I come across. Their arrogance knows no bounds.

22 posted on 09/17/2013 8:57:18 AM PDT by sand88
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To: moonshinner_09

Forbes just pushes Free Trade Communist Globalism drivel

With the unemployment and under-employment high...there is no need for illegal aliens or immigrants. If businesses cannot find qualified people....train them yourselves. Years ago businesses didn’t whine for welfare...they did things on their own


23 posted on 09/17/2013 11:54:59 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (A person who does not want to tariff Communist Chinese goods has no problem with taxing you)
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