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American "Race" Is Red and Yellow, Black and White
Lawrence journal world ^ | September 14, 1013 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 09/16/2013 3:41:00 AM PDT by kathsua

Dr. Martin Luther King's dream of a color blind society cannot be realized as long as the media and black leaders continue to perpetuate the old southern myth that the descendants of North American slaves are a different "race" from light skinned Americans. The term "African American" is an extremely racist term that implies the descendants of slaves belong in Africa rather than the United States even though many have ancestors who were living in North America at the time of the Revolution.

The dark skinned peoples of Sub-Saharan Africa might be of a different race from the light skinned peoples of northern Africa and Europe, but Americans have had too much sex across the color line over the last 400 years to be of different races.

The only inherent difference between black and white Americans is a half dozen genes that control skin color. A person can have a dark complexion even though a majority of skin color genes come from European ancestors because the genes that code for dark complexion are dominant and only a couple are needed for a relatively dark complexion. One of the genes that codes for a dark complexion is common among peoples of North America and Asia as well as Africa

Americans have been having sex across the color line since the first African slaves had sexual relationships with their fellow Irish slaves or with slave owners. Sexual relations also occurred with the North American peoples who lived in the vicinity of plantations for the first two hundred years of American slavery and accepted runaway slaves into their villages.

In the mid 17th Century some plantation owners required Irish female slaves to mate with African male slaves so that the resulting dark skinned babies could be kept as permanent slaves. Initially slaves in the British colonies were indentured servants who only had to serve as slaves for a few years. Most early slaves were from the British isles, especially Ireland Later slave owners decided to switch to having permanent slaves with the dark complexioned slaves becoming permanent slaves and the white slaves being indentured servants.

The only African ancestors of slaves arrived before importation of Africans was outlawed in 1808. Only about 500,000 Africans were imported into North America during this period which means that most slaves were born in North America to parents of mixed ancestry; .

The slave genome continued to receive new DNA from plantation owners and overseers until slavery was ended. Southern laws prohibiting sex across the color line were ignored if the female was black such as in the case of the mother of Sen. Strom Thurmond's black daughter. Dr. King is known to have had a white male ancestor who provided his "Y" chromosome. White men could rape black women without fear of prosecution until the 1960's.

It's likely that some children of mixed ancestry were passing for white by the early 18th Century. Many whites who researched their ancestry after the "Roots" television series were surprised to find ancestors whose military records included the letter "C" after the name for "Colored". President Warren G. Harding acknowledged he had some black ancestors. It is very likely that President Abraham Lincoln got his dark curly hair from an black ancestor. Many of his contemporaries believed he had slave ancestors.

It's time we Americans recognize that America is not the home of a black race and a white race, but instead is the home of a single race whose ancestors were red and yellow, black and white.


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: colorblind; dream; martinlutherking
Too many black leaders need to perpetuate the idea that they are a separate race. Most people in the media are racists who like to categorize people by color or ethnic background.
1 posted on 09/16/2013 3:41:01 AM PDT by kathsua
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To: kathsua

I have always refused to use the term, myself.


2 posted on 09/16/2013 3:49:09 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: kathsua

Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight. The only hope we have for a more harmonious world is a return to the old religion, secular PC is worthless against hate.


3 posted on 09/16/2013 3:52:11 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: kathsua
"plantation owners required Irish female slaves to mate with African male slaves so that the resulting dark skinned babies could be kept as permanent slaves."

Hence the Black Irish.

4 posted on 09/16/2013 3:55:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: kathsua

“The term “African American” is an extremely racist term that implies the descendants of slaves belong in Africa rather than the United States even though many have ancestors who were living in North America at the time of the Revolution.”

Really? Its not like the term was imposed upon them. We were all told thats what they wanted to be called. But then they didn’t like it because everyone called them that out of deference to their wishes. Seems like since the 60’s everyone has to be hypersensitive to their oh so easily bruised feelings.


5 posted on 09/16/2013 4:09:26 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: kathsua
The term "African American" is an extremely racist term that implies the descendants of slaves belong in Africa rather than the United States even though many have ancestors who were living in North America at the time of the Revolution.

No it's not. African-American describes ethnicity, just as Italian-American or Irish-American. Black, negro, mullato describe race. It does not particularly reference a time frame, nor imply a place of belonging.
6 posted on 09/16/2013 4:15:18 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: kathsua
The only inherent difference between black and white Americans is a half dozen genes that control skin color.

Actually, that's not true. There are a great many genetic differences between the races. The differences in melanin concentration are only the most obvious.

7 posted on 09/16/2013 4:17:40 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: Sherman Logan

You are right.

There are many differences.


8 posted on 09/16/2013 4:41:34 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I am not a historian, but this sounds like BS to me.

Certainly not the reason for the term Black Irish.

I need to see more proof than this article to convince me that any plantation owner would force a white woman to breed with a black man. especially after Miscegenation laws came into being.

It may be true that a few bred with blacks of their own accord and it is certain that many plantation owners bred with their black slaves, some rapes and some with consent for favors granted them.

I have never heard of Plantation owners owning Irish women and forcing them to breed with blacks.
Interesting though, but I would like to see more evidence.


9 posted on 09/16/2013 4:51:54 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Venturer

Under early colonial law, slave or free status followed that of the mother, neatly eliminating any incentive for slaveowners to do any such thing.


10 posted on 09/16/2013 5:30:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Hence the Black Irish.

According to my authority on things Irish, my 82 year old Irish-American mom, the term "Black Irish" is slang for "Protestant". And is also sometimes used as slang for "poor, lower class". The opposite being "lace curtain Irish".

Perhaps the term is used differently in the South.

11 posted on 09/16/2013 9:23:11 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: kathsua
I disagree with this article. This line summaries the author's claim: "The only inherent difference between black and white Americans is a half dozen genes that control skin color."

That's ridiculous. Races exist. The fact that some people are hybrids or mixed race doesn't therefore mean that races don't exist, that's illogical.

One can make a long list of things that differentiate blacks in America from whites: they are on average taller, they mature more quickly having puberty a year or two earlier, they are more prone to being overweight, they suffer higher rates of heart disease and diabetes, some have a characteristic African genetic disorder sickle cell anemia.

Statistically they have lower average IQs, score less well on most standardized tests, and achieve less academically than whites. . They are over-represented in many categories of crime, according to FBI statistics. They are over-represented (sometimes to the near exclusion of all other races) in many athletic activities. Olympic level sprinters, for instance.

One could go on and on like this. It's so obvious that the claim is just sort of a dream, but not reality.

12 posted on 09/16/2013 9:31:23 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black; Venturer

I was just being sarcastic. ;-)


13 posted on 09/16/2013 5:32:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Jack Black

I’m black Irish, with jet black hair (even at age 65).
I tan rather than burn and by this time of the year, I look like a Mexican LOL.


14 posted on 09/16/2013 5:41:55 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: kathsua
It is very likely that President Abraham Lincoln got his dark curly hair from an black ancestor.

I couldn't care less, but this is the first time I've heard this tidbit.

15 posted on 09/16/2013 5:47:35 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Jack Black
I guess everybody has their own mythology. But the version I've heard is that "Black Irish" refers to dark-haired Irish people. The rumor was that they descended from Spaniards washed ashore the Armada, but it's more likely they came from the pre-Celtic peoples of the Island (who actually may have been related to the pre-Celtic peoples of Spain). Colloquially, people talk about "Black Irish" referring to Irish melancholy.

I'd say we aren't going to stop talking about different races anytime soon, but by now Irish, Italians, Germans, Poles, French, Armenians, Greeks, Jews and other ethnic groups that seemed "unmeltable" 50 years ago have "melted" together to a degree that would have been unimaginable to our grandparents. Pretty soon if not already, White-Asian-Latino-Black is going to look more like a continuum than a set of fixed categories.

16 posted on 09/16/2013 5:48:55 PM PDT by x
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