Posted on 08/16/2013 7:21:29 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
iStockphoto/Thinkstock(WASHINGTON) -- The Republican National Committee passed a resolution Friday calling on President Obama and Congress to pass immigration reform legislation before the end of the year, but it did not include a pathway to citizenship for any of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country, unlike the bipartisan legislation passed by the Senate in June.
The resolution criticized the current system, calling it “premised upon obsolete public policy” and “outdated technology,” and said the “best deterrent to illegal immigration is a well-functioning program for legal immigration, which we do not have.”
The resolution called on the president and Congress to create a new work permit program, which, according to the resolution, would “allow foreign nationals who are currently in the country and have not violated any other laws of the U.S. to come forward and register and be allowed to remain and work in the U.S.”
The language, though, specifically excluded a path to citizenship. The work permit, which would need to be renewed every two years, would “not result in application for citizenship nor any family members entering the U.S.” It would also require the immigrant to have “proof of continuous employment,” with no more than two months per year of unemployment.
The resolution called on Congress to create a special legal status for undocumented immigrants brought to America as children, a group known as “DREAMers” by immigration activists. The name came from the DREAM Act, legislation created for minors who were brought to this country illegally by their parents to be able to gain legal status.
Their classification for those brought to America as children also would include a work permit, but it would be renewable every five years. That, too, would have no pathway to citizenship and require proof of employment or attendance in school.
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Why is "comprehensive immigration reform" the only terminology in Congress'lexicon, but NOT enforcing the existing immigration laws?? IMO, changing the law before we re-evaluate the existing laws to see what works and what, if anything, needs to be changed is the classical example of putting the cart before the horse.
Let him do that ,..by fiat !
THAT is an impeachable offense !!
So let the RNC raise its money from the illegals.
After amnesty, the Republicans will become the third party. And then join the Whigs.
But it won’t matter. We will be another Third World Latino country by 2040.
It’s my opinion that all illegal aliens (from any country and regardless of how they got here) need to return to their home countries for a minimum of two years (with proof of residency in their home country), then they can qualify to get in the back of the line to try go immigrate here properly. Anyone caught in this country illegally - regardless of whether or not they were in the process of further breaking the law - should be forever banned from receiving citizenship or a green card or any governmental benefits. Further, we should bill each of the home countries for any costs involved with their citizens being within our borders.
“best deterrent to illegal immigration is a well-functioning program for legal immigration, which we do not have.”
Insofar as the plan provides for the opportunity to work and pay taxes in America, they will gain a path to citizenship.
“We will be another Third World Latino country by 2040.”
Arguing that illegal immigration is bad because it’s Latinos is a losing argument.
“I support E-verify. It is more fraud proof than the current I-9 process.”
If it’s voluntary I support it. Mandatory would mean that every person in America would have to get federal government approval before they work. This is bad.
It is not the job of the business owners to regulate immigration. It’s the job of the federal government to regulate immigration. Passing the buck to employers will not work.
Fraud proof or not, it is the turning over of complete control over our right and ability to earn our daily bread.
Not to speak of the total loss of our privacy to the state.
You obviously don’t understand how E-verify works or the I-9 process. E-verify uses existing databases. Are you against the I-9?
I’m against any all-inclusive government database except the only one authorized by the Constitution. And that one is only a headcount, nothing more.
I understand exactly how E-Verify works. And I characterized it accurately.
Those waiting overseas that have completed their paperwork go to the front of the line provided they meet the requirement that they have financial where with all.
And nobody has fooled me. Without the border sealed everything else is a gimme. The border issue is the best the GOP we can get. It is the only hand. It is all that can be grabbed out of this debate. If the gauntlet is laid down on that then that is what will be achieved.
I’m as cynical as you are but I think more practical. The present situation is not going to change and will only become a bigger problem if not dealt with as I suggest. In other words, your way is not doable and only perpetuates more of what you don’t like.
Please take this as friendly discussion. I’m not trying to attack or be harsh. Happy to have your thoughtful reply.
By the way, any government databases that contain information on the people of the United States that is not authorized by the Constitution should be destroyed.
“But it won’t matter. We will be another Third World Latino country by 2040.”
We already are in California.
The line is overseas. Many wait a long time before their turn comes up depending on what immigration category they are in
And nobody has fooled me. Without the border sealed everything else is a gimme. The border issue is the best the GOP we can get. It is the only hand. It is all that can be grabbed out of this debate. If the gauntlet is laid down on that then that is what will be achieved.
First, 40% of the illegals in the country came here legally and overstayed their visa. Securing the border solves only part of the problem.
Second, why would we concede an amnesty just to get the border secured? Once you legalize the status of the lawbreakers, given them SSNs and work permits, and allow them to be reunited thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification, the country is finished.
I’m as cynical as you are but I think more practical. The present situation is not going to change and will only become a bigger problem if not dealt with as I suggest. In other words, your way is not doable and only perpetuates more of what you don’t like.
Au contraire. What you are proposing is far worse. Once you legalize the status of 11 to 20 million lawbreakers, it is irreversible.
Please take this as friendly discussion. I’m not trying to attack or be harsh. Happy to have your thoughtful reply.
No offense meant. I have spent the last seven years on the subject lobbying on the Hill and in Richmond. I understand how the other side likes to fool people thru the use of language. Illegal alien becomes an undocumented worker. There is no amnesty if you pay a fine, learn English, and get to the back of the line.
And legal immigration is far more destructive than illegal aliens entering this country. Every ten years we have what amounts to an amnesty thru legal immigration.
I did answer your question. “I’m against any all-inclusive government database except the only one authorized by the Constitution.”
Please point me to the constitutionally-enumerated power that the general government possesses to gather this information on citizens of the United States.
Also, please explain to me how we can in any way any longer be called a free people when government is allowed to exercise this sort of complete and total power over the people, right down to whether or not they are allowed to eat and provide for their families without becoming a ward of the state.
So we should get rid of databases like SSNs, driver’s licenses, birth and death records, marriages, etc.?
I already did. The government has compiled a database with everyone in it, theoretically. If you seek work, you must be found in this database, or you do not have permission to work. (Currently the system is "voluntary," but the Republicans are desperate to make it mandatory...an end that some of us have been predicting since its inception.)
Ultimately, the existence of this information opens the door to complete control over the people. All you're lacking once the information exists is someone in power with the willingness to use it against We the People.
Every heard of anyone like that?
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