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Robert Griffin III Deceived by "Gay" Agenda
http://youtu.be/78P_Wi41b3A ^ | Scott Ryan

Posted on 08/14/2013 8:57:29 PM PDT by publius321

RG3 makes statements encouraging Homosexual football players to "come out" and appears to be ok with their lifestyle "as a Christian" because we're all sinners.

Popular platitudes about Christians being "judgmental" and gay propaganda in the pulpit examined...(video)

(Excerpt) Read more at youtu.be ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Religion; Sports
KEYWORDS: gay; gq; griffin; rg3

1 posted on 08/14/2013 8:57:29 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

Actually in the big picture of things he is right.

Paul lumped homosexuals and fornicators together... And with birth control there is fundamentally no difference in the acts.


2 posted on 08/14/2013 9:00:38 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rwilson99
"Paul lumped homosexuals and fornicators together"

Well, to be more accurate, Paul lumped homosexuals and fornicators together along with adulterers, idolaters, thieves, the covetous, drunkards, swindlers and revilers. (1Corinthians 6:9)

Just a note on the word "revile." Revile: to assail with contemptuous or opprobrious language; address or speak of abusively.

Damn, looks like we are ALL in need of grace.

3 posted on 08/14/2013 9:13:23 PM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: newheart

Yes we are in need of grace. But we cannot have grace if we do not believe we need to repent due to refusing to accept that we have in fact committed sins, whether it be fornication, adultery, homosexuality, lust and the rest of the litany of sins.

Having a “pridefest”, celebrating ours sins is hardly repentant. That’s the point. RG3 didn’t say anything of that nature. He seemed to accommodate the state of people living in an ongoing lifestyle of sin.


4 posted on 08/14/2013 9:20:15 PM PDT by publius321
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To: rwilson99

I don’t worship Paul. He doesn’t set my standards.


5 posted on 08/14/2013 9:23:44 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: publius321
Jesus Christ said, 'Go and sin no more.'

As Believers, we will be tempted and sin at times. When we do sin, we are immediately convicted and can turn to our Advocate (Jesus Christ) in repentance and in order to pray for help to overcome it in the future.

However, continual, habitual, purposeful, and rebellious sin (of any kind) against God's commands in a person's life is a demonstration that they most likely don't have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and aren't filled with the Holy Spirit. Who gives the ability to escape it when tempted. 1 Corinthians 10:13

If ye love me, keep my commandments.~ John 14:15

6 posted on 08/14/2013 9:57:38 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Psalm 112)
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To: publius321

“Having a “pridefest”, celebrating ours sins is hardly repentant.”

Correct, and that is addressed in Romans 1:32:

“who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.”

Everyone sins, but that doesn’t mean sin should be condoned.


7 posted on 08/14/2013 10:00:14 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: rwilson99; publius321
Paul lumped homosexuals and fornicators together... And with birth control there is fundamentally no difference in the acts.

And yet God reserved the adjective "Abomination"(Leviticus 20:13) for homosexuality and Paul in Chapter 1 of Romans, put's the sin of Homosexuality in a class by itself in terms of it being a punishment from God for continually serving oneself instead of God. So, I think your inference is incomplete at best.
8 posted on 08/14/2013 10:15:54 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie; rwilson99; publius321

And furthermore, none of this discussion absolves RGIII from the acceptance of something God calls an abomination.

RGIII, in effect, just took sides against God himself.


9 posted on 08/14/2013 10:17:32 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: publius321
"Having a “pridefest”, celebrating ours sins is hardly repentant"

Does an endless string of "video selfies" qualify as a prideful sin?
10 posted on 08/14/2013 10:24:13 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: publius321

Bingo, publius.

We don’t get the option of redefining sin into being “not sin”. God says it’s sin...all of those things to include homosexuality.

We can’t say, “Grace...grace...grace...and that means nothing gets to be defined as sin anymore, so dude, keep doing what you’re doing, it’s just fine.”

The message is “repent and believe the gospel.” That means to admit that sin is sin, that it is harmful, that it violates God’s rules on how he wants this world to operate, and that WE are to admit it’s wrong and stop doing it.

That’s a whole world different than saying it’s A-OK and we can keep doing it.


11 posted on 08/14/2013 10:34:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: rwilson99
Actually in the big picture of things he is right.

He's wrong! Anyone who is still a sinner has NOT received Jesus. He clearly has bad teaching. And those who do - WILL fall for anything and he certainly has.

12 posted on 08/14/2013 11:06:55 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: GeronL

“I don’t worship Paul. He doesn’t set my standards.”

I’m not quite sure what you are implying here. Do you not believe the epistles to be part of Scripture? If so on what basis? And if you do, then how does the fact that you do not “worship Paul” (which no one does that I know) diminish the truth of what Paul taught?


13 posted on 08/14/2013 11:18:50 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: presently no screen name

If one thinks they are not a sinner... They are guilty of the sin of pride.

The devil couldn’t lust... But he sure could commit the sin of pride.


14 posted on 08/15/2013 2:30:07 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: newheart

Thank you for posting the verse in full context.


15 posted on 08/15/2013 2:31:22 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: publius321

homosexual Christians? Christian gossips? adulterous Christians? 1 Corinthians 5:11 “But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.”

Are we using the word Christian rather than brother?


16 posted on 08/15/2013 4:25:53 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: publius321
we cannot have grace if we do not believe we need to repent due to refusing to accept that we have in fact committed sins, whether it be fornication, adultery, homosexuality, lust and the rest of the litany of sins.

I suppose we could debate the theological niceties of when grace occurs and whether it is dependent on our repentance (and I expect we would agree more than disagree), but I do agree that repentance is necessary.

To be honest, I found RGIII's statement disappointing, but I am continually disappointed by the number of people (not you publius) who speak as though the Bible was written for the sole purpose of warning people about homosexuality, when, in truth, we are all guilty of equivalent sin.

17 posted on 08/15/2013 4:51:55 AM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: rwilson99
If one thinks they are not a sinner... They are guilty of the sin of pride.

Those gully of pride are those who think they don't need a Savior - they can save themselves for they see themselves as good. They are unable to humble themselves.

I was a sinner who was saved by grace. Jesus died for my sin nature and I am now 'in Him' ..."Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2 Cor.

But he sure could commit the sin of pride.

Just like all those who are not 'born again of the spirit' and are so unteached they don't know true Christianity and therefore are 'useable' to Satan with their lack of knowledge.

Reminder: I am who Christ says I am in His Word. What you or others think or say means squat. That will pierce the Christianity lite and prideful sinner.

18 posted on 08/15/2013 7:31:02 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I’ll be busy working out my own salvation with fear and trembling.

Phil 2:!2


19 posted on 08/15/2013 4:13:47 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rwilson99

Tells us what are you trembling and fearful about?


20 posted on 08/16/2013 12:54:53 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

As soon as you put the stone down.


21 posted on 08/17/2013 7:41:17 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rwilson99

Your fear has you seeing things that aren’t there.


22 posted on 08/17/2013 8:58:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Look... I worry about my sins first. While most of them are in the past, I still need to work to keep my thoughts free of lust & pride especially.

In the past I simply have the vast majority of homosexuals beaten in the sin department... in addition to impure acts with members of the opposite sex, I’ve engaged in nearly all of the other sins that Paul lists.

So, I’m not going to elevate homosexual conduct to some level of super sin. I think contraceptive sex is equally repugnant to God due to the sterile, selfish nature of all such acts.

Finally, I paid for an abortion 20 years ago, and during my conversion process confessing that sin and being accepted into the church was the most powerful thing that I ever experienced.

So while I’m tempted and occasionally my imagination goes to far, I don’t look at porn, I don’t act out, and I’m not going to have sex again until I get married.

At the end of the day... I know I have a lot of people beat in the sin department and am very thankful for God’s grace. As a result I can testify to changes in behavior and in my opinion be more helpful to sinners of all stripes.


23 posted on 08/18/2013 4:15:03 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rwilson99

I think that he just wants to know who they are so that he won’t have his locker next to them.


24 posted on 08/18/2013 4:17:11 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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