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Now what liberals? When given the chance, freed former Black slaves kept slaves themselves
Coach is Right ^ | 8/12/13 | Derrick Hollenbeck

Posted on 08/12/2013 9:35:39 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Liberals love their fantasies about slavery in America. It makes them feel superior to insist America was founded by “Old White Men” (OWM) who loved slavery. They refuse to acknowledge that those same OWMs often freed their own slaves although not until their death. They love their own fairy tale that, “freeing slaves had nothing to do with the Civil War.” Allowing that would force them to credit Lincoln and the (hated) Republicans with freeing the slaves – a gross violation of the false liberal narrative of American history.

They are so desperate to keep the truth of who were the slave holders and who set the slaves free from their intellectually captive Black voters that in some states American history books start with 1870 because starting in 1775 could throw open the Liberal plantation gates forever.

These things said liberals should start gearing up to defend another of their wishful thinking fantasies which holds that the slaves...

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blackculture; blacks; blackslavery; corruption; democratparty; democratplantation; democrats; liberia; naacp; racism; scandals; slavery
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1 posted on 08/12/2013 9:35:39 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Heard that a while back. Even Glenn Beck pointed out that it was a black slaveowner that started the trend away from the release-after-six-years principle and switched to lifetime bondage for his chattel “property”.


2 posted on 08/12/2013 9:38:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Oldpuppymax
They love their own fairy tale that, “freeing slaves had nothing to do with the Civil War.”

That sentence bumps the odds of this being a 500 post thread up to about 50%.

3 posted on 08/12/2013 9:38:56 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Oldpuppymax

Doesn’t matter -

black victim and white oppressor => political power for the left.

They’ll simply ignore this factoid.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 9:40:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldpuppymax

93% vote in federal elections for the man most resembling the benevolent plantation owner.


5 posted on 08/12/2013 9:41:58 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Oldpuppymax
Actually the real story is the slave owning blacks in this country. If memory serves, in the 1850 census the largest slaveholder in New Orleans was black. In South Carolina the slave owner that was said to be the cruelest to his slaves was ...GASP... A BLACK MAN.
Look it up.
6 posted on 08/12/2013 9:45:59 AM PDT by Tupelo (Our friends no longer trust us and our enemies mock us.)
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To: Pan_Yan

The War of Northern Agression was about secession from the Union, not slavery.


7 posted on 08/12/2013 9:47:32 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Oldpuppymax

I just read about this yesterday.

It goes to prove that there are some “truths” that are completely, always, universally true.

The truth about which I am thinking is, “All liberals and their supporters are hypocrites.”


8 posted on 08/12/2013 9:47:46 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Oldpuppymax

Anthony Johnson was an indentured servant from Angola who fulfilled his contract and was given the agreed upon land. He then entered into a contract with another African indentured servant.

When a fire on Johnson’s farm destroyed the contract the indentured servant wanted out. Johnson went to court and the judge basically allowed Johnson to rewrite an open ended contract that made the indentured servant a slave in perpetuity.


9 posted on 08/12/2013 9:54:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldpuppymax
They love their own fairy tale that, “freeing slaves had nothing to do with the Civil War.”

Fairy tale?

Lincoln said himself that the war was about maintaining the Union, not freeing the slaves.

10 posted on 08/12/2013 9:56:02 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Tupelo

Anthony Johnson regarded by many as the first true slave holder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_%28colonist%29


11 posted on 08/12/2013 9:57:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

bkmk


12 posted on 08/12/2013 10:09:34 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Olog-hai

That was Anthony Johnson. He sued a black servant who was demanding his release and Johnson won. The colonial court awarded him the servant as his property. It was a black man in America who first established the legal right to ‘own’ a slave.


13 posted on 08/12/2013 10:31:39 AM PDT by pgkdan (Marco Rubio can go straight to hell!)
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To: Oldpuppymax
I happened to watch the "Vice Guide" to Liberia the other day. This one had Shane Smith visiting locations in and near Monrovia, including a prison, a slum, and the compound of General Butt Naked (no joke). In his introductory remarks, Shane Smith explained the history of Liberia as follows:

"... in fact, the constitution [of Liberia] was written in Washington. Monrovia, the capital city of Liberia, is actually named after president Monroe, and it became a state in the 1840s. So the freed slaves moved back to Africa, and promptly enslaved the native Africans, based on plantation methods they had learned in the United States."

By the way, in introducing General Naked, Mr. Smith explains how he (Gen. Naked) has gone from mass murderer to Christian evangelist and leader of the nation, and that Naked's campaign slogan was "He killed my mother, he killed my father, and I'm voting for him anyway."

General Naked won the election with this slogan.

14 posted on 08/12/2013 10:39:43 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Reparations for slavery?

When a black woman is one of the richest people in America?

When a black man was Secretary of State??

When a black woman was Secretary of State?

When black men have sat — and do sit — on the Supreme Court??

When a black would-be despot sits in the White House?????

When countless black men have risen to the top of the ranks of the richest in professional sports and show business?? Men like Hank Aaron. Men like Bill Cosby who... (Never mind. As we all know, Bill’s either an Uncle Tom or Oreo Cookie, depending on which black race pimp you listen to.)

And, how about Liberation Theology?

Liberation from WHAT? The chance to achieve and succeed??

Give me a break!!

Let me make it clear right up front: I am NOT a racist. I supported Herman Cain in his run for the Senate and supported him in his run for the WH. And if Allen West goes for it, he, too, has my support.

I also consider Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams two of the finest economists and minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, both are black.

Sowell, Williams and Cain – among others — have spoken out against those fellow blacks who castigate and vilify America for a slave system now long in our past. And ALL thinking men and women oppose the periodic calls for reparations. (When he ran, I supported Alan Keyes. I even spoke in his stead on the RTKABA at a Capitol rally and was asked to fill in for him on his radio show at the time. Sadly, while I still consider Alan a good man, I have had to rethink my support since he came out FOR reparations.)

The fact is that the modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions now calling for reparations need to remember something:

They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE!

Had their ancestors NOT been brought OUT of Africa – many by Muslim slave raiders —the blood of those ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago, victims of the OTHER black tribes that captured them in one of the interminable tribal conflicts STILL ravaging that sad continent and these modern day would-be “plaintiffs” would not even exist.

And I would remind you that slavery is STILL practiced in parts of Africa (mainly by – American BLACK muslims LISTEN UP!! — MUSLIMS) and Asia today. How ironic that disgruntled American blacks are embracing a system that participated mightily in their initial bondage – and would, if Islam takes root here, probably put any who cling to their Christianity back INTO BONDAGE – or to the sword. In fact, as the majority of muslims consider black folks as “sub-human”, many of you black muzzies will get the axe.

95% of the African slaves who were transported across the Atlantic went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions, and that less than 5% of the slaves who crossed the Atlantic went to the United States, it was remarkable that the vast majority of academic research, films, books and articles concerning the slave trade concentrated only on the American involvement, as though slavery was a uniquely American aberration.

And should the great-great-great grandchildren of SLAVE OWNING BLACKS also be subject to PAYING these reparations? If so, how do we find THEM?

And I have traced MY family back to the SLAVS. Although the term looks to be related to “slave”, depending on your source, it either means “glory” or “worshipper.” But my family research indicates that many of my of my ancestors LIVED lives of virtual slavery to some despot or other. Do I qualify for reparations? From whom?? And it begs a question: Are most of us now living here headed into a modern form of that servitude? But that’s a topic for another discussion.

The official US Census of 1830 lists 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr. Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia. His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans. The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners.
-”Selling Poor Steven”, American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90

Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a recitation of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony:
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers’ Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378

A few more salient points on the subject:
Until the US declared independence, the Colonies were REQUIRED by the King of England to embrace slavery.
The Northwest Ordinance (1789) prohibited slavery in federal territories.
A law prohibiting the importation of slaves into the US became effective in 1808.
Beginning in 1820, the Democratic Congress started passing laws allowing and encouraging slavery.

It was only after the Republican Party (many of whom were southern Blacks) was formed some 40 years later that the anti-slavery movement was able to move forward.

And the holier-than-thou Northern liberals are strangely silent on recent archeological evidence from NEW YORK CITY clearly tracing the financing of the slave trade to NORTHERN BUSINESSMEN!!

At the height of his remarkable boxing career, Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Clay), once declared, “I’m glad my great-grandpa got on that boat.”

And speaking of ancestors, my paternal grandmother’s daddy joined with the 80th Ohio Volunteer Infantry early in the War Between the States (re-upped twice) and fought on the Union side at Chickamauga, Vicksburg, Jackson then joined up with Sherman for that infamous march to the sea through Georgia. My wife’s great grandpappy ALSO fought for the Union. While I revere the memory of my ancestors, inasmuch as that conflict was less about slavery than it was the economic exploitation and abuse of the South by the North, I fear they MAY have been on the wrong side.

Author Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.

Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice, “Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”

Next problem!
Dick Bachert (Original created circa 2008 with edits/additions as required)

(Please feel free to use this little essay in whole or in part so long as attribution is extended to the author.. I may require some notice to permit me to enhance security here.)
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Got this email from a fellow Freeper:
From BTCM | 01/08/2013 4:21:57 AM PST replied
Thank you for an intelligent post. Locally we had one of the largest slave holding families in Virgina. The Jones family was a wealthy black family whose main product was breeding an selling slaves. When the local mullet wrapper paper printed the historical story a few years back, I thought the local NAACP was going to burn down their building.


15 posted on 08/12/2013 10:39:57 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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John Carruthers Stanly

John Carruthers Stanly, born a slave in 1774, was the son of an African Ibo woman and the white prominent merchant-shipper John Wright Stanly. He was apprenticed to Alexander and Lydia Stewart, close friends and neighbors of his father. They saw to it that John received an education and learned the trade of barbering. At an early age, they helped him establish his own barbershop in New Bern. Many of the town’s farmers and planters frequented his barbershop for a shave or a trim. As a result, Stanly developed a successful business. By the time he reached the age of twenty-one, literate and economically able to provide for himself, his owners petitioned the Craven County court in 1795 for his emancipation. However, he was not completely satisfied with the ruling of the court and in 1798, through a special act, the state legislature confirmed the emancipation of John Carruthers Stanly, which entitled him to all rights and privileges of a free person.

Between 1800 and 1801, Stanly purchased his slave wife, Kitty, and two mulatto slave children. By March 1805, they were emancipated by the Craven County Superior Court. A few days later, Kitty and Stanly were legally married in New Bern and posted a legal marriage bond in Raleigh. Stanly’s wife was the daughter of Richard and Mary Green and the paternal granddaughter of Amelia Green. Two years later, in 1807, Stanly was successful in getting the court to emancipate his wife’s brother.

After securing his own and his family’s freedom, Stanly began to focus more on business matters. He obtained other slaves to work for him. Two of them, Boston and Brister, were taught the barbering trade. Once they became skillful barbers, Stanly let them run the operation while he used the money they helped him earn to invest in additional town property, farmland, and more slaves.

Through his business acumen, Stanley eventually became a very wealthy plantation owner and the largest slaveholder in all of Craven County. He profited from investments in real estate, rental properties, the slave operated barbershop, and plantations from which he sold commodities such as cotton and turpentine.

Stanly’s plantations and rental properties were operated by skilled slaves along with help from some hired free blacks. To improve his rental properties in New Bern, he used skilled slaves and free blacks to build cabins and other residences and to repair and renovate these properties. During the depression of the early 1820s it was slave labor that kept Stanly economically stable.

The 1830 census reveals that Stanly owned, 163 slaves. He has been described as a harsh, profit-minded task master whose treatment of his slaves was no different than the treatment slaves received from white owners. Stanly’s goal, shared by white southern planters, was on expanding his operations and increasing his profits.


16 posted on 08/12/2013 10:48:37 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: Oldpuppymax

That has to be suppressed. It contradicts the liberal false history that they have concocted. What if CBS news led with this? Why all the phony race hustlers would be out of a job.


17 posted on 08/12/2013 11:20:03 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Democrat party: criminal enterprise masquerading as a political party.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

That’s what the lost causers believe at any rate.


18 posted on 08/12/2013 11:40:57 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Take a trip to Liberia

Call up “vice Guide to Liberia” on youtube.

See how many lost their lives during civil strife over this EXACT topic.


19 posted on 08/12/2013 11:52:26 AM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Olog-hai

A black slave holder sued a runaway apprentice. It was the white (British) judge that gave him what he asked.

In any case, children of slaves should have been freed under the Constitution per the corruption of the blood clause, if that clause had been applied to the states.

Taney’s novel doctrine of the Dred Scott case was that blacks had no standing to sue, or even to defend themselves. Talk about your judicial activism!


20 posted on 08/12/2013 12:03:02 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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